Axiom Full Metal Bracket (FMB) on the VP150
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I am trying to mount the Axiom Full Metal Bracket (FMB) on my VP150, so I can mount the VP150 on the wall on top of my TV.
The diagram here:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/FMB.html#
shows wood screws being used, but there is a screw already in the back of the speaker, exactly the same as the QS8s. (I already have my QS8s mounted using this screw through the middle of the FMBs).
However, unlike the QS8s, the washer underneath the screw did not come off when I removed the screw, and when I put the bracket on over top of the washer the FMB is not really sitting flush, as it is now 1mm away from the speaker.
Can I use the speaker like this, or will I run into problems? Is that washer supposed to come off? I hesitate to pull it off with a screwdriver, as I dont really want to damage the speaker finish.
Anyone?
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brent, i think the washer is actually the head of the metal insert. i mounted my 150 with the fmb to the under side of the top of the ent center. it fits about an inch or two above the plasma, and is slightly tilted down. the tilt improved the performance, and made the bride very happy that she finally could put her framed print back on the top of the cabinet. i think i got to sleep in the big bed that night.
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I just happen to have an allen wrench handy. Both the screw, and the washer came right out / off of my VP150. The washer on yours might have a small amount of the adhesive used to bond the vinyl to the cabinet holding it in place.
Try this, remove the allen screw, find a flat blade that fits snugly into the center of the washer. Insert the screwdriver into the washer, and gently rock it from side to side. (If you put the screwdriver in the hole vertically, rock the screwdriver up and down. If you put it in the hole horizontally, rock it from left to right.)
This should prevent you from inflicting any harm.
If that doesn't work, you can rent a jackhammer from your local tool rental shop.
I edited this after reading what twodan wrote. Maybe Axiom used 2 different kinds of blind nuts... Be careful trying my method if your's doesn't readily come off...
Good luck,
Last edited by Michael_A; 05/09/04 12:59 PM.
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Can't help you w/ the VP150 thing, but how do you guys like the FMB for your QS8s? Specifically, how much movement does it allow? Are they eventually going to loosen up and leave your QS8s pointing straight down?
Ideally, I'd like my QS8s to be pointing 20-30 degrees downward and inward as much as possible (I have them mounted flush on the back wall, 8' up currently - far from ideal).
Hope this doesn't qualify as a hi-jack.
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hi-will!
Jack
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That sucks, Jack. I was hoping for some real info.
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Sorry Mark. Was just reaching for a knock on your "hi-jack."
I don't have the FMBs so I can't be of any help anyway. But my "joke," bad or not, didn't prevent anyone else from responding, did it? Why are you mad at me?
Jack
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Hi Mark, I have the FMB with the QS8. This link shows them about as far in and down as they could possibly go. Hope it helps. www3.telus.net/public/jklasher/
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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Thanks, jake. The degree of downward angle appears adequate for my plan. You don't have the QS8s pointed inward at all though, right?
Jack, I ain't mad at you. I wasn't even complaining. You da man!
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WHEW! I'm relieved.
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You don't have the QS8s pointed inward at all though, right?
The speakers are tilted inwards. The inner most corner is 1/2 in. away from the wall and the outer most is about 2 1/2 in. away from the wall. It's not much of an inward twist but with the diffusion of the sound it really doesn't matter.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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BigWill, the FMB work very well for the QS8s, you can angle them in pretty much any direction.
The only problem I have had with the FMB specifically is the crappy 2 inch wood screws that are sent to hold them on the wall. 2 of my 6 completely stripped the heads while putting them in, and 2 others were somewhat stripped. Replacement screws from Canadian Tire are only a few cents a piece, and none of the replacement screws stripped. I swear the metal on the included wood screws is weaker.
Getting back to the original topic, I mounted the VP150 with the washer still attached to the VP150, and so far no problems with it, so, as the old saying goes "if it ain't broke..." I'll try to take the washer off if I run into problems in the future.
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2 of my 6 completely stripped the heads while putting them in, and 2 others were somewhat stripped.
Those are special sacrificial screws - they tear apart themselves rather than risking damaging your cordless screwdriver bit. It's not a flaw, it's a feature!
Have you consider tweaking your sound by replacing them with audio-grade screws? I'll sell you a dozen for, say - $50CDN - no shipping, they'll widen your soundstage and increase presence.
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I had the same problem with those screws...I just used some drywall screws instead.
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