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Well, I was thinking 5 sets of 2 (each speaker cable has two wires that connect on each end [speaker and receiver], so again x2) 5x2=10 10x2=20. Was that wrong?
Or did you think I meant I had connected/disconnected all 5 speaker cables 20 times? Cause that would be just plain not fun.

jr

The flanges thing was a joke, used to work with a Dutch soccer player who had these stubby little crooked fingers (he was only 23 or so at the time)... and he called them either flanges (instead of FUH-lan-jees) or snausages.

Bren R.

I've always used bare wire, but am gradually moving away from it for a few reasons:
-12 gauge wire is so thick it doesn't seem to like to stay screwed down.
-cranking down the plastic nuts on the back of my receiver (trying to make sure the 12 gauge doesn't gradually loosen) makes me worry about breaking them.
-when would-be Axiomites come over for a demo I'll be able to swap speakers quickly and easily.

But mainly for #1 above.

Have any of you tried inserting bare wire into a Denon? It's hell in a handbag. For speakers themselves, bare wire is fine. For the back of recievers I would recommend banana plugs. I know everyone knocks spring and clip connectors but they sure as hell are a lot easier to insert bare wire into.

Ditto all of that - I have a Denon - but the spring and clip thing can make 12 gauge a bit difficult to use. I'm sure some of our more well-endowed members can empathize.

Amen... I used spring clips on my centre (scratch built in 1993) and doing the 12ga squash into it is ANFFAA.

Bren R.

Whenever hooking up anything with the spring clips on it, I generally tin the end of the wire with a little solder. It definately keeps the strands from going awry.

It would work really well with binding posts as well. I'm using banana plugs now, but I might take them off later after I am certain the AVR is going to stay in the same spot for a while. I prefer the ugly, but solid, mechanical connection over the pretty gold "audio bling bling".

THe other day, I stumbled upon the same thing with the 630 that Misfit did. Even with all speakers set for an 80Hz crossover, setting the "LFE" option to center seems to produce more bass out of the sub. The odd thing is, you can set it to "center" even in the Stereo DSP modes. What's up with that? It seems unnatural set it that way for stereo listening, but it works.

Yeah Michael_A. Let me tell you. I'm all over the place with this thing. I just did another test of small vs. large last night. Switched to small..calibrated everything. It still lacked in the fullness of sound. My "sound" conclusion on this is that when switched to small the 630 actually does a compression of the audio, or a filtering. Either way, unless I really did have "small" speakers I don't want it. I did everything...set the crossover to 200 even. That helped a little, but it still lacked, and it gave the sub too much to work with on bigger scenes. Nope. I have to believe that Large is the only way to go with our speakers and this receiver.
I've contacted Harman Kardon twice and I got two different answers when I brought this up. My question has now been forwarded to an engineer. When I hear back from him/her I'll post up the results of that. I'm sure, as there are a few owners of H/K receivers here, more people would like to know what's really going on.
Or maybe mines a lemon. Who knows?! We'll see I guess.

Please do keep us informed of what you find out. That HK is on my consideration list of receivers (not that I'll be buying it soon) so any quirkiness I would like to know about.

Thanks Misfit, I'de appreciate any info you can pass along.

I have been doing some sub tuning with the old SPL meter and Excel. Part of my problem is that the entire right front quadrant of my room has a null at 71Hz. This is where the RF M60 is, and also my preferred sub location. My LF M60, on the other hand, sits in a smaller 36Hz null. The differences between small and large speaker settings are not as drastic with the sub on the right side of the room where the 71Hz null is. I believe that the sub fills in a little of that, but it's too close to the crossover frequency. The sub is not putting out a whole lot of 71Hz. Of course, on the other side of the room, I feel big difference between small and large because at 36Hz, the mains don't contribute much.

Setting LFE to center seems to have had far less effect with the sub on the right side. I still have a lot of testing to do before I understand what is happening. I suspect that If I could find a place for each front speaker that had nulls at the same frequency, I might not notice the differences as much. My room is fighting me on this endeavor.

I'll post updates after more testing.