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Re: OT: Politics
#53869 10/15/04 06:25 PM
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That's just sick.

The locals say it pretty much happened as Kerry described it, yet John O'Neil says that Kerry shot a sole wounded kid in the back. I'd sue the bas*^% for slander. That's just plain wrong.



Re: OT: Politics
#53870 10/15/04 07:12 PM
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Sorry to interrupt the "John Kerry, War Hero" love fest, but of far more importance today is the testimony he delivered to Congress when he returned - which cannot be disputed. His statements against his fellow soldiers, his lack of support for the 1991 Gulf War (which had almost uniform int'l support), his votes against major weapons systems, his plan to slash the intelligence budget after the first Trade Center bombings, and his recent undermining of the current war effort are far more relevant than whether he earned his medals or not.
That being said, I certainly admire all of our military vets who have put their lives on the line. Maybe if he gets elected I can just keep reminding myself that he is a vet.

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#53871 10/15/04 08:05 PM
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In the latest of politician's scare tactics (remember mediscare?), Kerry says a draft is likely under Bush.

Re: OT: Politics
#53872 10/16/04 12:16 AM
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Kinda like Cheney saying that if Kerry's elected the terrorists will attack again?

As for the weapons systems Kerry voted against, Cheney voted against many of the same programs.

Re: OT: Politics
#53873 10/16/04 12:17 AM
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Yeah...that's one of my favorites. Weapons programs that CHENEY recommended be scrapped. Too rich.



Re: OT: Politics
#53874 10/16/04 12:28 AM
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I'm just replying here so we can see 3 Kerry voters in a row.

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#53875 10/16/04 12:32 AM
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In reply to:

his recent undermining of the current war effort


Do you think the war would be going better if no Americans criticized it?

Re: OT: Politics
#53876 10/16/04 12:23 PM
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Might as well make it 4 in a row PM

Re: OT: Politics
#53877 10/16/04 01:05 PM
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Lets make it 5 in a row.


I live the life I love and I love the life I live.
Re: OT: Politics
#53878 10/16/04 02:50 PM
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OK....I gotta throw a large wrench into this dialog. During one of the debates, Cheney made a reference to FactCheck.org (he actually said .com, but it's .org). I made a mental note to myself to go check out that site, but only now have done so.

This site has done one thing very well for me....it has clarfied how full of $hit BOTH candidates are. Everything we have been arguing about (both sides) is based upon mistruths, distortions, & half-truths. This site is not partisan, because it rips apart assertions from both sides. You can spend hours at the site and walk away completely swimming in the head.

I recommend that EVERYONE that has been following this election and this thread take some time to read throught the unending articles debunking assertions made by both sides. As a group, I think that we are much more aware of the issues that the average Joe "sheep" that we talk about. However, after reading this, I realize that we are all still subject to the same types of deceptions.....that we are all guilty of taking the word of politicians, which is a dangerous thing. You'd think that we would have learned better by now.

PS: Please do not respond for us to look at Snopes as Kerry suggested. That site may have some fact analysis, but it's a pathetic hack of a site that bombards w/ popups, which holds no serious credibility. Factcheck, on the other hand, is professionally done and is definitely non-partisan, as they beat up on both sides equally.

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