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OK?? after a few minutes of research, i have come to the conclusion that john cage was an ego-centric, half-brained, wanna-be visionary.. its a cute idea, but in the long run, it just ends up being a vain attempt to salvage a career that never lived up to his expectations.. SHOCK people into remembering who you are.. alice cooper does it much better!!

BTW- this song(or lack there of) reminds me of a todd snider song called 'seattle grunge-rock blues'.. if you ever get a chance to hear it, you will get the similarities.

bigjohn

BigWill, If you look back a few posts, you will see the Alan actually requested I do most listening in 1.0 ... not 2.1, not 5.1...(I agree with him) ... If you think this through, comparing 5.1 channel systems in an A/B comparo is almost impossible.. So you try to keep it as fair as possible..

Next, to pricing... I use system pricing in an attempt to make things fair. For everybody.

For Example, the Rocket 550's are $999 stand alone, but will run about $1500-$1600 in a system adding the 200 center and the 300 surrounds. This is without a sub.

The Axiom 60 package is $1415 w/o a sub.

We then can get into a debate over the finishes... With Axiom, you can get a high gloss finish to match the Rocket's finish for $1000 in a system, or $350 in a single speaker (or is that for a pair ?) ... either way, the 60's then become more expensive than the 550's...

When you use system pricing for standard stuff (rather than custom, for example, in the Axiom line), you keep in line with what the typical buyer is looking for. This seems to be the fairest approach to all...:)

It's $350 per model, which means, I believe, 2 M60s in high gloss finish = $350 for the pair.

At av123, the 550s Mk II list for $1000, the 200 for $600, the 300s for $600. I've got that at $2200. Do they offer a discount, as Axiom does, for oredering all 5?

To simplify things, I called AV123 and talked to Sean.. The Package of the 550 Mark II's, the 100 center channel, and the 300 surrounds will run $1890 delivered. And If I did this right, the Axiom "60" package is $1415 delivered...

So they do offer a discount on all 5 pieces. The list price for that grouping is $1997. So at $1890, like Axiom, that's a discount of 5% or so.

But the 100 center is the lesser of the two they offer. So, substituting the VP100 for the VP150, the M60s, VP100, and QS8s come in at a list price of $1490; 1415.50 with the 5% discount.

I think we can justify the difference in price because of the Rocket finish. So everything is copacetic. (My spell checker actually had that word listed. I know this because I misspelled it . On purpose, of course )

Speaking completely on a personal level, as long as it meets a basic minimum, the finish isn't really high on my list of priorities. I recognize that many others feel differently. So, unless I markedly preferred the Rockets sound, for me, and for me alone, the Axioms would be a better value.

Ascend CMT-340m front pr(w/stands) + CMT-340c center + CBM-170 surround pr(with brackets) + VTF-3 MK2 sub

about $1800 delivered, without the sub about $1300.

Jack... The $1415 price is correct... and I quoted a delivered price on the Rockets because Axiom includes shipping. It works out to a $475 difference for the system price, and I tend to agree, some people will say the looks of the Rockets make up for the price difference, and some people won't. And the Axiom's CAN be had with a better finish for $1690 and a premium finish for $2415...

I would say these speakers compete well in the "value" department.

Any way you look at it, they are good values.

Thanks Curtis. All things being equal, without the sub, the Ascends are an even better value than the other two.

Whadaya mean "BETTER" finish? Prettier, maybe. Better, nah!