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Re: Received my AXIOM HT 5.1 system
#58263 08/23/04 05:09 AM
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Hi Big Will,
Thanks for your advice. My Denon is AVR 1804, with 90watts x 6 channels. This unit does not have a display connected to the TV; but I have the onscreen display on the receiver itself.

What is the model of your Denon? Please show me your setting. My setting is shown in "my reply to Alan Loffts" comment above. Thanks

Rogel (Calgary, Canada)

Re: Received my AXIOM HT 5.1 system
#58264 08/24/04 02:02 AM
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Hi JohnK,

Can you please explain further "make sure the woofers in the M60's are actually connected..." I do not understand your point. How can I check the straps? or more precisely, where are these straps?; that if I open the grill of the M60's, there is no strap!
Appreciate your response!

Thanks,
Rogel

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#58265 08/24/04 02:04 AM
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The M60s have 2 pairs of binding posts each (where you hook up the cable). Those posts are connected when you're not biwiring or biamping by a small gold strap. Make sure that those are tight.


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#58266 08/24/04 02:17 AM
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I have a 2802. It only has the onscreen menu as far as I know. What you have seems to be a definite improvement.

Regarding the lack of bass - I'm at a loss. Maybe look into what Tony M suggested.
Maybe pull the sub out from the corner so that you can actually see the readings on the knobs and ensure that you have the dials where you want them.
Is the light green on the back of the EP350 when you're listening to music?
Make sure the EP350 is plugged in?
While running 2 channel stereo, use your speaker selector switch (A/B) to turn off the M60s and see exactly what sort of volume the sub is producing.


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#58267 08/24/04 06:32 AM
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Rogel, Ken's reply covered the point, and this is unlikely to be the problem, but on one occasion M60s were being used without the mids and tweeters connected and on another without the woofers connected. The speaker posts in back both have to be tightly connected with the little metal straps between them, even if only one set of the posts is being used. For example, if your wires were connected to the top posts and the straps to the bottom posts weren't tight, then the woofers(which the bottom posts connect to)wouldn't operate and the problem with the bass might be the M60s rather than the EP350.


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Re: Received my AXIOM HT 5.1 system
#58268 08/26/04 08:11 AM
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Tony,

I checked my Denon manual and I do not have the "dynamic compression" option. I play the DVD during daytime (noon time included) and same situation (very poor bass output).

I am beginning to conclude that the EP350 is not suited for my HT room size which is 14'W x 20'L x 20'H(vaulted ceiling) plus adjoining a kitchen area of another 14'W x 20'L x 8'H).

I am beginning to think of exercising my option to return this sub (still have 20 days to go) and seriously look at purchasing an SV25-31PCPlus (525 watts powered sub. Any comments/advice from anyone?

Rogel

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#58269 08/26/04 03:15 PM
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Hello RDM,

Hope you are well. Well that rules that out. Try this little experiment.

Turn all your speaker channels down as far as they will go and leave the sub channel at +6db.

Now put in a CD with some good bass that you like.

Turn up the volume of your system until the Sub starts to produce acceptable bass to your ear.

After you are getting acceptable bass, balance your other speaker channels to an acceptable level.

The reason I suggest this is that it sounds like your mains are very sensitive and are playing loud at a low volume level, therefore not enough signal is getting to the subwoofer at the low volume level. Calibrating the sub first should balance your sytem out.

Later,

TonyM

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#58270 08/27/04 11:21 AM
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Something is definetley amiss here

I have a Denon receiver and my levels are as follows:

FL: +2.0
C: +0.5
FR: +2.0
SL: -1.5
SR: -1.5
SW: 0db (for movies) +3.5 (for 5ch stereo).

and my sub is at 11 o'clock or 12 o'clock, give or take.

I wish I could come out and help you, but calgary is a little far from me

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Re: Received my AXIOM HT 5.1 system
#58271 09/04/04 02:09 AM
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Hi All!
Thanks for all the advices in "tweaking" my EP350 sub. These helped a little, but not to a point that make me happy!

As the saying goes..."there's no point in flogging a dead-horse". Therefore, I ordered and just now received an SV25-31PCPlus subwoofer. The moment I turned it on (after hooking it up), the bass is what I want. tweaked it a little more for about 15 minutes, and now I think I can say that i am very happy. The bass sound is so powerful that I have to turn down the settings (wrt to the bass signal). This puppy is a 525 watts powered sub, which is on par with the soon to be released Axiom EP500 or EP600. Cost wise (factoring in the US$ plus shipping, etc cost) it is worth the cost. So, the EP350 is going back to Dwight (sorry Amie...I did not know about the EP500 model when I ordered my system.)
Anyway, I am very happy now with my 5.1 HT system: M60Ti, VP150, QS8, and SV25-31PC Plus.

Cheers,
Rogel (Calgary, Canada)

P.S. For those in this part of the "True North" who are willing to audition my system, pls let me know. I'll be more than glad to show.

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#58272 09/04/04 02:21 AM
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Rogel,

Congratulations on your setup. I had a weak sub problem before upgrading to the Earthquake SuperNova MKV15. I had an AudioSource sub and it was just “boomy” and nothing else.
I've been drooling at the SVS stuff for a while now, I don't think I need it but it sure looks tempting.

Tom



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