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Saturn, i believe our beloved JohnK is a US citizen, however such offers should be given to anyone on the forums no?
I hear Waterpeg, i mean, Winnipeg is nice this time of year.

Which MF player do you have?
If i recall their Tri Vista series are tubed are they not? I don't remember much about their other units. Will have to take a look tomorrow.
I'm presently searching for a new cdp and i had my eye on a used Rega Planet. My wife really liked the lid mechanism.

Anyone who tries to sell the myths about clock jitter and such need to do alot more reading on the proven science and less reading from websites lacking credibility or data. Head over to Ars Technica and talk with a guy named Semi...

If what's being suggested here is that all cd players sound the same regardless of whether you're using analog or digital out, then I side with Saturn here - I have definitely been able to hear differences between CD players. I had a mid 90s entry level Sony cd changer for a little while, and then I stepped up to a Sony SCD-CE775 SACD changer, and there was an extremely noticeable difference between the two - the newer player clearly sounded much better (we're talking regular redbook and analog out).

Or are we saying that all DACs sound the same now? Oh sorry. Yes. Um - I could hear no difference. They sounded completely identical. 1s and 0s, etc.

Are you saying jitter does not exist? Care to share some reference to the proven science you're talking about?

I have a cheap $150 SACD/DVD-A player and it was worth buying. It is not the best Hi-Rez player but it does sound good!

Endless threads on these hi-rez players at www.ecoustics.com.

seamonster,
Do a search on the forums for jitter and look at some of the responses from Semi, sushi and Alan Lofft.
This topic has already been discussed.

chess: You know what will happen you get Semi & I in a room...
As with my reply to JohnK it is just a verbal challenge and would not go all the way unless I am provoked. Its more of me saying I would definitely try to disprove you if you gave me a chance to prove...which is mute point unless I really show up and do the test. I still love JohnK....kisses...
Chess I picked up the MF A3.2. I was actually going to get a Rega Planet 2000 until this guy brought down his price to the price the Rega was going for. Both CDP are great...lots of detail and warmth in the presentation vs my $150 made in china Kareoke DVD player. Try the Rega with any low power integrated amp and Proac monitor. Its sooooooooo sweet in the midrange.
As with the clock jitter over digital I don't believe in that. But the other sum of the parts in the CDP can make it a better all around player.

AdamP88: I also have found the same results. Just 3 nights ago I did a A/B between my MF and a cheap $150 Malata Kereoke player. It was different between the two at the same listening level using a switching A/B passive premamp using the same (copied) CD.

Thanks.

I too must say that not all cd players sound the same. When listening to some speakers at a local hi-fi shop, the difference between their Linn cd player and they're denon was significant. Both going through the same Rotel reciever, and played back on the same speakers.

Chess: Over the last little while I revisited some of the other myths that I seem to practice. Wire & Amp

Wire: I have come to the conclusion that wire does not really matter.

16g OFC copper $15
12g Monster XP Time align $87
14g Audioquest Cinema $28.60
11g Kimber 4TC $180
10g Audioquest Slate $400

Test subject: Fiancee with perfect bill of hearing based on visit to hearing doctor.

As I switched the wires during testing without shutting down the music. Her comment was "When are you going to switch the wires?"

Amp:

With all my listening and with the help of other people I have come to the conclusion that my lower powered Bryston 3B sounded more correct or musical than the higher powered 4B. And both sounded better than the Pioneer receiver power all at the same SPL level.

As with all these findings I would welcome any visit from any Axiomite and prove me false. It would be hard for me to lug all my gear to Waterpeg for a demo. And I would visit if a

1. There is a mountain close by to either snowboard or mtn bike
2. Some really big huge event worth going to
3. Some that interest my fiancee ... pretty much anyhere where there is shopping

Audio Myths:

1. Wires are all the same
2. solid state amps are better than tube amps or vise versa
3. Cd players/DAC are all the same
4. faulty A/B listening test
5. Transferring to digital will improve the sound
6. Green Sharpie takes away the sharpness of CDs
7. Flat response curve speakers will sound better than non flat response speaker irrelavant of price
7. JohnK's preaching