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Re: Denon receiver....
#64428 10/15/04 04:13 PM
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Well you can start by taking the DVD player off the top of the receiver, that should allow it to stay a lot cooler than it is at the moment. I wouldn't put anything on top of the receiver, you are just asking for trouble if you do that.


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#64429 10/16/04 12:13 AM
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Thanks for all the input! I've checked all connections, set my fronts to small and crossover to 80. Now i'll put my dvd on the floor beside the receiver ( until I get a stand).

As soon as I get my tweeters, I'll let 'er rip again and see what happens...... if it clips out again I guess I'll run an amp on the m60's...... maybe I'll have to get 80's now

cheers and thanks



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#64430 12/12/04 04:55 AM
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I've got the AVR-3805 and in the manual it says if you try to use speakers less than 6 ohms, you risk tripping the automatic protection (current limiter). From what you say, that's what's happening. Too bad. I was hoping to get some 80's, but it doesn't look like 4 ohms agrees with Denons.

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#64431 12/12/04 06:21 AM
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I think you misunderstand... he's got M60s (an 8 ohm speaker) and is playing them at rather extremely high volumes. From what Axiom (Alan) says, I think Denons are acceptable for M80s.


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#64432 12/12/04 11:43 PM
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Ken your right, and actually I believe Denon's and HK's are two of the brands that Axiom highly recommends for people that have M80's. I selected the m60's, and my 2805 Denon just sings to me with these babies...


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#64433 12/15/04 04:50 PM
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I have a Denon 3803 and I can play a total of 7 speakers plus the sub at very high volume for a very long period and have never had a shut down. Bare in mind that I have (4) M80 ti's running in that set of seven speakers. Denon is a fantastic amp for the M80ti's.


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#64434 12/15/04 05:52 PM
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warf, the connection integrity at the receiver may be an issue that isn't readily evident. I avoided 12 ga (used 14 ga instead) because of the size of the wire being stuffed into the receiver. I've also read that 12 ga, being relatively inflexible, can put a bit of a strain on the connections themselves.

In any event, I remember reading something (can't remember where) about someone having an issue similar to yours. He tried everything, but still shut down, even after checking the connections at the receiver. A suggestion was made to trim a few srtands off the 12 ga end connected to the receiver. There is no loss of "stuff" getting to the receiver. He tried it and the problem stopped. May be worth while to try it out.

Another thing you might try to isolate the problem is to disconnect one speaker at a time to see if you can localize the issue to a single connection - then you can try and determine if it is the connection, the speaker or the receiver circuit for that one loop.

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#64435 12/16/04 09:32 PM
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Warf, if you have carpeting, try setting the reciever on something solid to allow it to breathe from the bottom. Alot of amps and recievers have slots on the bottom to allow for better airflow, although I am not familiar with the Denon.

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#64436 12/17/04 06:23 AM
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mace- im not sure about the bottom, but the denon 3805 has two slots in the back for ventilation and top is almost completely vented. which is good cause it certainly puts out some heat, especially in a 5.1/7.1 stereo mode!


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#64437 12/18/04 12:12 AM
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Hey I just want to thank everyone for their input. I finally got that the denon off of the floor and into a stand with lots of free air above it. I can play it as loud as I want and it hasn't shut down.

denon recievers are awesome but if I was to do it again I would definitely check out separates (amps, mono, preamp ect) as opposed to 'JUST' looking for the perfect AVR

The clarity of my system especially on dvd concerts is simply outstanding. I am in love with these speakers and when i blew my tweeters, i had new ones in a couple of days.

Thanx AXIOM!!!! ( you definitely have a satisfied customer in thunder bay!)



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