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#66403 10/29/04 02:15 AM
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OK I'll start a new post. Here's some pics and then I'm out of here to connect it all up







THE "FLAW"


First thing I noticed once I had it out of the box is this thing is a HUGE child magnet.... I'm definitely going to have to take some precautions.

OK I'm out to get connected, Jag

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Cmon cmon cmon, hurry up already. Tell us more!


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Priiiittttyyyy....




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go ahead,rub it in...i hope your sheetrock cracks from it and you spend the next month patching and painting

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First thing I noticed once I had it out of the box is this thing is a HUGE child magnet.... I'm definitely going to have to take some precautions.


Simply seat the child on the 500, turn the volume all the way up, and play the gunfight from Open Range. Once you've cleaned up the mess, the child will never go near it again.



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LOL, so far the sheetrock is hanging on but the fixtures...Ouch

Well guys it rumbles and tumbles the entire house. Man oh Maaaan, this is one mother sub. You can feel this thing in any room of the house.

Someone mentioned in Amies post today that it looks like the subs have the ASW cabinets. The EP500 doesn't.
If its not clear from the pics the sub is deeper than wide or high but no angled sides.
For the new timers the finish is spot on and looks darn authentic from virtually any distance. A very pretty sub in my opinion and its going to be a perfect match for the rest of the system when it comes.

I haven't much chance to fiddle with the settings or play with placement but I certainly have found everything sounds fuller and better with the sub running with my old mission bookshelf speakers.

One advantage I've found of the front firing sub is you get to watch the it flex its muscle. So COOLLLLLLLLLL.

Cheers, Jag

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Congrats! Sounds like it's fantastic. Enjoy!

It looks great, although I prefer my subs in black. Can you give us a close up of the panel on the back?


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Thanks Kcarlie it is pretty cool. I didn't realize how fun this HT thing can really be.
Here's the best pic of the back panel I could do. The camera is on loan and isn't the best quality.


The sub came with a "quick set up sheet" and referenced this web page for the full manual
but it doesn't seem to be up and running yet.

In the quick sheet it does reference a couple of interesting things:

"The REMOTE setting is for operation with future Axiom remote controlled products that enables remote-control adjustment of subwoofer levels."

"USB: This is to be used for future software upgrades to the Digital Signal Processor inside your EP500 and EP600. You may also use the USB input to connect the accessory Axiom light to ease visibilty in making subwoofer adjustments or connections"

I thought this was quite funny. A sub woofer USB light.
At the very least is shows Axiom is thinking out side of the box or should I say sub.

Cheers, Jag

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Nice! I may have to look into Axiom's subs to use as a second addition to my theater. Thanks for the pics.

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JAG- thanks for the update man.. i believe you are the first on the board to get one of the new subs, so we are all very curious. i cant wait til you get the rest of the system in, and can give a full review of the complete axiom system.

thanks for the pics. it helps to see it in a 'realtime' scenario. and i sure reckon that "flaw" is acceptable. for a 10% discount, that you cant even see when the grill is on, i wouldnt mind a bit!!

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Very NICE!


I wish that Axiom offered a competitive upgrade program I would be willing to trade my Earthquake Supernova and pay a little more for one of these puppies. Oh well, I better start saving . I could probably sell my existing sub and then pick up the EP600 for a little more $. Upgrade-itus is kicking in....


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I am REALLY glad Axiom has come out with these subs and hope they square off nicely against the SVS and HSU offerings. I always get a little tweak when someone asks abouts recommendations for subs to go with their new Axiom speakers and then I and others point them to considering SVS and HSU.

Hopefully we'll see some reviews shortly and MAYBE even see craigsub do a Axiom - SVS - HSU shootout.

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I agree. I would love to see a review from craigsub and maybe from a reputable publication.


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There are certainly some similarities with the 500 sub, and revels sub, looks, design, driver (although revel uses a 15") and control panel, also software for set-up. Thats not a bad thing cause this sub cost over 3K, Axiom new "higher priced" subs, may not be that expensive, and can't see the company walking away from providing the most bang for the buck. http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/revel_b15.htm


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Is it just me, or does the label to the right of the bottom knob look like it says booby?

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i think its boost, but its always nice to see i aint the only one with my mind in the gutter all the time!!

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I don't think I've ever seen a booby in a gutter.

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you didnt go to the parties i went to in college..

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That reminds me of the ink blot test from Armageddon.

These are breasts.
These are bigger breasts.
Breasts again.
Hmmm... Let's think about this..... Breasts!
And here's a surprise - BREASTS!

(And before everyone jumps on me, I don't think this is EXACTLY how it is in the movie - just the way I remember them - I mean it.)



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and your asking price on the mark-5 is???????????????


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#66423 10/30/04 03:39 AM
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Ok I just can't resist posting against that "CD leaning against the subwoofer" picture up there



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That truly looks like a beast.


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Thanks Bigjohn. I'd agree the flaw is more than acceptable, particularily since I'm expecting to see this kind of thing at some point, given my kids.

I'll definitely let you folks know my opinion with lots of pics once I get everything else and get it set up. At this point its even difficult to give impressions on the sub as I'm realizing its going to take some effort to tweak things just right. I used the Denon auto set up last evening and I got to say it sucks. At least for the sub set up. I'm in a 20' long room sitting about 15' away and the reciever said the sub was 21' away. And who knows about the sound levels... I'll definitely have to get one of those Avian (spelling?) discs you folks talk about, but I should have some time before the rest arrives. One thing is for sure I can really crank this thing loud with no distortion.

Cheers, Jag



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Ya a shoot out would be fun...

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David and Goliath...

Very SWEET Daphoid. That looks about 1/3 the size again over the 500, a real monster and I bet its sounds as impressive as it looks.

I'm still relishing the "first look" feeling as I saw the EP500 come out of the box. By the looks of that pic yours must have been a very memorable one too.

Cheers, Jag

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NO actually its BOOTY, er BOOSTY. OK its BOOST.

The manual says its meant for medium to small rooms and is used to overcome room loading or boundary effects by increasing frequencies above 33HZ to varying degrees depending on what you set it to.

Jag

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Which finish is that? The standard Boston Cherry? Looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!



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Thanks. You got it Spiffnme, Boston Cherry.

The camera I used is a real cheapo and I had to use alot of lighting just to get the pics looking OK. Some time down the road when I get my own digi camera I'll try to take some pics that more accurately represent the Boston Cherry finish. I now understand just how difficult it is for Axiom to get truly representative pics. Not to mention the variation in everyones monitors.

Cheers, Jag

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if you guys are looking for a better pic of the rear control panel on the new subs, go to the store. Underneath the finish, vertical/horizontal purchase block (about 2/3 down, left-hand side), there should be a link saying "control panel".


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Surely those aren't minijacks near the line in and out?! That would be one %*&! of a computer speaker system...


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No minijacks Now that would be a DOOM machine!

Like I said, cheapo camera...sorry

Good idea sidvicious2 how about this, any better?



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So what are those things in between the RCA jacks and the XLR jacks? Little bitty pots?


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I would guess that they are switches for either XLR (balanced) or RCA inputs and outputs.


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Well, I got egg on my face for this one.

They indeed are MINI JACKS! When I first made a cursory look I thought they were just rivets of some form.

Way to be persistent Kcarlie. I decided to take another look and noticed they looked more like little holes. Went and got a mini jack and voila it fit perfect! Now I'm going to have to figure out how to move it from the HT room to the computer room every day.

By the way that back panel in the right light has a real eligant gold look to it. Nice knobs too.

Thanks Kcarlie, Jag

PS the egg has just about run off now...

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Since they are mini jacks, I doubt that they are standard ones. I would assume that they are balanced mono instead of standard mono or stereo. I've never seen balanced connections of that size though. I've seen balanced for 3/8" (the "big" headphone plug size which is the plug size of "real" headphones) plugs but never 1/8" plugs (the little "regular" headphone size).


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Jag,

Those mini-jacks are trigger inputs/outputs to remotely turn on other equipment. They are meant to be used together with balanced XLR interconnection of A/V processors and other gear that has balanced outputs.

Don't plug any audio devices into those mini-jacks!

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Thanks for the clarification Alan, appreciated!

Good thing its so heavy otherwise I may have moved it to the computer room and tried connecting it up to the computer.

Can anyone explain to me what XLR connections are and how they would be used with A/V processors or other gear as Alan mentioned?

Cheers, Jag

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If you have ever been in an auditorium, school gym or whatever and seen connector plates in the wall or floor with a circular connector about 1/2" in diameter with two pins and a notch so you can lock a metal plug in -- that's probably an XLR connector. Probably


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XLR (which is a type of balanced interconnection) uses two grounds instead of one to raise the signal to noise ratio. Theoretically it raise the SNR up to 6 dB, but I doubt it really is anywhere near that significant if there isn't a problem with the signal such as a hum or something similar.


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Ahhhhhhhh, I see.

Thanks guys, Jag

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And here are the connectors from Axiom.

Neet!

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Great pics, Jag! Thanks for sharing and congrats on your new EP500!!!


Just curious: What was the lead time for the "flawed" unit anyway?

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DZ_Gillespie you're most welcome and thanks. Half the fun is in the sharing.

I ordered on the phone so I don't remember the exact date but I believe it was 13 days only. I do think I totally lucked out though as when I ordered it they said they couldn't give me an expected time but they would try to get it to me with my QS8's which had a 12 week wait. They also said that there was a long wait list for A stock so getting a B stock could take a good while.

I'm still waiting for the rest of my factory outlet speakers so I'm running the sub with just some mission bookshelves. I am very impressed by just how much better even these bookshelves sound with the addition of the sub. Its definitely a HUGE upgrade to my system. I'm likely going to go into cardiac arrest when I get the rest of them.

When I get the rest of the speakers and everything setup optimally I will try my hand at giving a review, hopefully with lots of pretty pictures...

I'm totally sold on Axiom simply from my experience with my EP500. So far the EP500 has been absolutely awesome and I'd recommend it to anyone! Without hesitation, it takes complete and absolute command of the low end at any listening level. It always sounds tight and clean with no distortion at any volume I've tried and I've tried really LOUD. I love the fact you don't have to worry about overdriving it, due to the internal DSP control. I also love its looks. To me most subs are just plain looking boxes. The 500 is definitely not that. Its one beautiful looking "air piston" and its alot of fun to watch the 12" driver strutt its stuff. The EP500 simply dominates and destroys the low end and yet is incredibly musical and blends perfectly with the bookshelves. I'm just one guy with one opinion but I think Axiom has some killer subs on their hands with the EP500 and EP600 and these will definitely keep the competition on their toes. What can I say... I'm head over heals in LUV!

Thanks again, Jag



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