Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Custom-built QS-Series wall mounts?

Please excuse me for bumping this part of one of my posts, but now that the M60s are in, I'm hoping for some quick advice!

The photo above illustrates the problems I had written about regarding my limited positioning for the coming M60s. I have a closet (to the left as visible in the photo) that doesn't allow me to put the left speaker equidistant from the right one according to the monitor. For times when I'm actually sitting on the sectional and watching a DVD or critically listening, I drag the left speaker over to the left in front of the closet door. I just read something (from Alan maybe?) regarding M60s in corners as not ideal positioning.

I might move the Bell'O rack to the right corner and flank the monitor with the M60s. The M60s won't be spread as far as I'd like, but it will get the right one away from the corner and would mean I don't have to keep dragging the left one over, since I intend to do more of that critical listening and general HT enjoyment!

Any thoughts regarding the M60 positioning from anyone? I can experiment, but Bell'O doesn't recommend moving the rack with equipment on it, (meaning I have to take everything off the rack)...so it could be very involved just to try the experiment of switching the rack and right M60 for that right-side corner position!

Hiya Mark,

We need to rearrange your room. We're pretty good at it, ya know.

Only slightly kidding.

My opinion (free! Today only!) is that you'll have to fidget with various options and decide what YOU prefer in YOUR space. I also think that not having more than a few feet between the speakers is going to rob you of fabulously nuanced soundstage that might be obtained by separating them further.

Mark, just thinking out loud and using the premise that your HT is WAY more important than the closet.

If you have some room on the left side of the door or if you don't need to open the door all the way (and I'm guessing you'll spend more time listening to/watching your HT than you will opening the door), you might want to set one of the M60's on the left side of the room, (running the wire around the door frame to connect it).

Would you still be able to open the door enough to get in the closet? This would give you a wider sound stage. Then you can take the rest of your rig and shift it to the left, closer to the right side of the door. Also allows you to put the sub into the corner (possibly improving your LFE output and gets the M60s OUT of the corners.

If you end up with a visual/balance problem (work with me here), you might consider hanging a floor to ceiling curtain the length of the room behind your HT. Probably designed so you can still get at the door.

If that doesn't work, blow the back of the room out and put on a 20x30 addition.

If you replaced that closet door with a pocket door, it would be much easier to get in and out of with equipment in front of it.

Wish I had thought of that! More alternatives include those accordian/folding doors or even a couple of pantry type 1/2 doors that swing out from both sides.

I've been somewhat absentia lately as I have received all my speakers and have been busy building wall mounts for my QS8s, re-cabling, etc….

I plan on writing out a fairly comprehensive post of the whole experience, thinking it might be helpful to those who are considering the purchase or awaiting their shipment.

It's easy for me to include quite a few photos, and I know all of you like photos! But a quick question- I'll resize them all and compress them probably to 50k each, but is there a point where it's annoying to our hosts or those with dial-up service? I'm not looking to post 100 photos, but I wouldn't be surprised if I ended up with 10 or 12. Maybe I'll do it within a "thread" as opposed to a single post…(?) Any thoughts?

OK- to respond to some of your very thoughtful answers….

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If you have some room on the left side of the door….(snip)

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Actually, there is NO room to the left of the closet door. It's almost flush to the left wall of the room and, besides, there's a big cast-iron radiator there!

Tom and Peter:
Actually, it's a 100 year-old house and though I've had to make some modifications for the sake of my business, I always resist doing anything too drastic. I think a pocket door with these old lathe and plaster walls would end up relatively messy. The folding door, full-wall curtain, etc.. are certainly possible ideas.

We really don't need to get into that closet too often, and I ran out of time for experimentation, with a client needing to come into my office across the hall from my living room/HT room. For the moment, my right M60 is kind of in the corner, and the left one is as far left as possible yet allowing the closet door to open. I want to do some more rewiring of the rack in the not too distant future, and I'll use that time to experiment a little more with the M60 positions. My biggest concern was reading several times that the M60s shouldn't be put in a corner..… why do I have images of Patrick Swayze in my head as I write that?

As I said, I'll write a (likely long-winded) account of everything up to this point… but let me say that for now I am not at all unhappy with the positions of the M60s.

Thank you all again for your help- and let me now if it's PC to post lotsa pics…!

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full-wall curtain

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There's your answer right there. Just take the closet door off its hinges, hang some nice floor to ceiling velvet curtains on that entire wall, and you're golden! You now have the entire wall to work with, and you can still access the storage space behind the curtain.

Here's a bit more of a drastic idea, but it may work for you.

Find a new place for whatever it is you have in the closet. Remove the door to the closet, and move the equipment INTO the closet. It would be a poor-mans "in-wall" equipment rack.

Then you'd have much more room for the TV and new M60's. In fact you'd have room for a bigger TV.

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In fact you'd have room for a bigger TV.

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Now, THIS I'm liking a whole lot!

What a GREAT idea Spiff!!!!!! Wish I'd thought of it.