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Re: Warmer M60's
#70446 12/07/04 09:30 PM
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Grexx,

I don't wish to deter your experiments but it will certainly screw up the dispersion traits of the tweeter, which are exemplary. I think you will lose much of the clarity and transparency that distinguish the M60s/M22s from competitor's speakers. Besides, using the felt is akin to making the speaker into a tone control--to compensate for source material that is badly recorded. What if you play a CD that has dullish mids or highs? Are you going to remove the felt?

Why not try using a treble control for a few dB reduction if a CD or DVD is strident? That's what those controls are for. . . and I agree that tone controls are not always effective but at least you are not permanently altering the speaker's frequency balance and dispersion traits.

Axiom goes to great lengths to make the M60s as "linear" as possible--as smooth and flat across the musical spectrum--so that really good recordings will have as natural, transparent and uncolored reproduction as possible. We do many blind listening tests with listeners of different ages and normal hearing acuity, and the balance of the M60s is as close to ideal as we can make it.

And there might be a heat-dissipation issue at high volume. The dome actually radiates much of the heat generated in the voice coil. That's why titanium/aluminum dome tweeters are so more linear at very high SPLs than the old plastic, silk, or cloth dome tweeters.

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Re: Warmer M60's
#70447 12/07/04 09:58 PM
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Thank's for posting that information, and clearing up this "frankenspeaker"
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#70448 12/07/04 10:47 PM
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Hey, no need to poke fun.

By the way thanks Alan for the explaination. I like the way how my M60s sound now and no way I'm going back. This is a risk I have to take. If few days or months down the road; tweeter gives out on me than so be it. I will be the Guinea Pig. If this Mod fails then I'm gonna have to buy new tweeters from Axiom; and sell my M60s locally. An excuse to upgrade...lol

This is what makes this hobby interesting.

Thanks again Alan.


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#70449 12/07/04 10:57 PM
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I'm not really familiar with what your trying to achieve, but I wonder if warranty void issues would apply in this situaton? Not that anything is going to happen....


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Re: Warmer M60's
#70450 12/07/04 11:08 PM
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I'm not trying to achieve anything. I just needed a warmer speaker than the stock M60s. As right now my ears are thanking me. Dang these sensitive ears. Why not different electronic you ask...I tried most of them without blowing my budget.


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#70451 12/07/04 11:11 PM
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Why not talk to Axiom about getting yourself a set of the resistors they offer.Its free.


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Re: Warmer M60's
#70452 12/08/04 12:17 AM
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Just got off the line with Brent(Nice Fellow)at Axiom and inquire about the Resistor. He says it involves some precision installation...saudering; proper alignment. He doesn't really recomend it. Highs will be sacrificed in a negative way. I don't think I'll be doing that way. He said if the felt way is working fine then by all means keep it in. I ask him how much each tweeter costs and its around $58.00. Not bad.


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#70453 12/08/04 01:50 AM
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Hey Grexx, since it hasn't been mentioned so far and has been talked about some I thought I'd just suggest you consider your room acoustics (re: your speakers brightness...) Alan has written a bit about this in the newsletter and I think it may be worth considering. Its possible a little effort there may eliminate a need for such a modification. Just a thought.

Interesting read though.



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#70454 12/08/04 02:00 AM
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Just curious, what do you have for a receiver or separates?
Also, how loud do you crank the M60's?


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#70455 12/08/04 02:07 AM
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The volume Level is

Yamaha RXV1400: -24dB
HK 235: -28dB

Which the HK 235 is warmer than the Yamaha.


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