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Hmmm, How big is the room? The HK can deliver 65 watts a channel, right? Do you have a lot of reflective surfaces like windows and hardwood flooring? I'm just trying to understand your environment. Thanks
Tom
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Room size is 14x17. Ceiling is 8.5ft. I have a couple of windows on the side. No hardwood floors just carpets. Drywalling, And yes its 65w/c (2Channel).
Brent ask me all the details when I was on the phone with him which I describe; and he said the room should be fine.
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I would assume the M60 sound similar to M22ti, they're very accurate and great sounding speakers, adding the pads probably would ruin the overall SQ, imaging, and sound staging to a degree, maybe my ears are not as sensitive as yours but if I were you, I would of bought a more laid back speakers, such as something from KEF, and many other warm sounding bookshelves or towers out there.
Another suggestion, instead of adding pads, ever thought about putting a thin layer of mesh or whatever on the speaker grills to dull out the sound? perhaps you could get a decent EQ to smooth things out too!
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I received a pair of those resistors from Axiom. I really didn't find it that difficult to install. Actually, I found it rather simple. Maybe I installed it wrong
It did mellow out the highs though. But I think thats always the trade-off. You lose detail, but gain the ability to turn the volume up higher before if feels too loud. I currently have them off. But didn't mind too terrible much with them on. The only way to really test would've been to get resistors for all of my speakers, and I only had the pair.
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Grexx,
I'm curious about this as well. Normally, males (humans) are equipped with the same set of hearing mechanism; that is, each of us does NOT hear differently, contrary to accepted wisdom. Of course we all have slight preferences, but the research (in which I participated as a member of the listening panel) has shown that when the brand, price, size and type of speaker is concealed from the listener in blind tests, we all agree on which speakers sound "best" and which ones are worst. The highest-rated speakers, those judged best, were always the most linear--the ones with the smoothest, flattest frequency response on and off-axis, especially through the midrange and treble.
If there has been premature hearing damage from industrial noise or, for example, full-time rock musicians touring and playing without hearing protection, then various conditions may develop, including "tinnitus," a serious condition whose symptoms often include constant ringing in the ears (I have a relative who has it).
In any case, have you experienced any other symptoms that might suggest an unusual sensitivity to midrange and high frequencies, or have you been in an occupation that might have in some way caused hearing damage?
Regards,
Alan Lofft, Axiom Resident Expert (Retired)
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Alan,
Maybe Axiom should of had myself and the few people here in this forum that emailed me for the instructions for this mod; As they refer to be abit bright for their ears as well. am I the only one? I don't think so.
And no my young ears are completely fine.
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Well I consider myself young also, 36, anyway I have been around a lot of speakers in my life: Realistic Optimus Machs, Bose (the good years), Infinity, Pioneer (80's good stuff), and B&W's 700 series (very similar to M60's), and Alpine car equipment, and Axioms's are not bright on the ears. Again, I don't mean any disrespect, but my guess is that your problem is your receiver settings or room atributes. just my 2 cents...
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Room attributes. Most of us, myself included, don't understand, and underestimate, the effect the room has on the sound of the system. Side walls, where first reflections occur are particularly important.
Jack
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None taken...
Wow you have alot more experience than I do.
Like I said its all about preference. My settings are fine. I had a group of people at my place last night and they also heard the difference. A couple of them liked the older sound and majority likes the new sound. Subjective..Subjective ...Subjective. My dad is undecided. He's the kind of guy who is hard to impress. He too has been in this hobby for a long time. Well everyone have their opinion.
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