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Re: Warmer M60's
#70466 12/09/04 12:45 AM
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Yes. I'm moving into a smaller room, but actually looking forward to it as my current theater space (living room) is highly reflective with lots of hardwood floors and 12' high ceilings (lots of walls). So I'm excited about having more control over the acoustics.
I think I'll post some sort of A/B after I move to give everyone my ears' perspective on how the rooms effect the sound.


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Re: Warmer M60's
#70467 12/09/04 01:22 AM
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I am forever going back and forth on this issue. Some days my M60's are detailed and true, other times they are shrill and bright. I put this down to CD quality (I am still a little dissapointed that so many CD's fall into the 'poorly mastered' category - I tried to listen to Bat Out of Hell tonight and it was unlistenable.), and my mood (Psycho-acoustics?). The M60's will certainly spend a lot of time in my setup, but I am sure, as my usage is 80% music, 20% Movies that I will eventually move them to my zone 2 family room system and replace with something a bit warmer.

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#70468 12/09/04 01:51 AM
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One question, and I am NOT trying to be a smart alec here. Have you ever been within 5 feet of a real drummer striking a real cymbal with the "oomph" normally applied to it during a live performance or a recording session? If you have not, then I highly suggest that you find a way to do so. Go to a music store and ask someone there to do it for you, or sit down at a kit, and take a solid whack at one yourself. I have a feeling that you might have a new appreciation for those M60s. If you think the 60s are brighter than that, then I'm at a loss...

I'm not a musician, but being the technical guy in a crowd of musical types, I've had plenty of up close and personal experience. I think the 60s do beautiful cymbals, chimes, and breaking glass (THX). Wouldn't change a thing.

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Re: Warmer M60's
#70469 12/09/04 01:55 AM
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Expat,

Does that Meatloaf CD have EK-90678 on the edge of the case?

I thought the same thing. It sounds "ok" at best. I tried it in a buddy's car. Not real great there, either. I almost traded it for a Beastie Boys CD...


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Re: Warmer M60's
#70470 12/09/04 02:45 AM
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Michael, it's supposed to be the 'remastered' version, but still sounds horrible. BTW I just spent a very pleasurable evening listening to Elvis Costello (The very best of), nice warm vocals, detailed piano etc., no perceived brightness - great speakers these M60's (Today!).

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#70471 12/09/04 03:27 AM
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Hi Grexx,
I've had several posts in the past discussing the use of ohm resistors and why I felt they were required. Yes, Axioms can be bright.
They are easier to install then your mod, does'nt require sautering, simply remove tweeter lead connections and attach resistor between tweeter connect and lead wires.
I've enjoyed my M80's and M22's for the last 2 years with 1.8 ohm resistors installed.
BTW anyone possesing one too many Q8's, looking to spread holiday cheer by parting with it for a reasonable compensation?

Re: Warmer M60's
#70472 12/09/04 03:10 PM
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Can someone who has carried out the resistor tweak post some details/pictures. I would like to give this a try.

Thanks.

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#70473 01/09/05 09:17 PM
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Yes, pictures please. My problem is not with cymbals etc but often with lead guitar - occasionally during solos a note will be struck that just seems to resonate in my head.

Probably room acoustics and those little oval pads look tempting as a possible quick improvement.


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