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Re: New Receiver
#73680 12/27/04 08:44 PM
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littleb,

Not to worry. The Denons are also fine with 4-ohm loads.

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Re: New Receiver
#73681 12/27/04 10:25 PM
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thekid,

I can't tell you that the HK is better than the Marantz, but I can tell you that I have an AVR 230 and am very pleased. You can't go wrong with it.

Re: New Receiver
#73682 12/28/04 01:24 AM
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hmmm I love my Denon


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Re: New Receiver
#73683 12/28/04 02:00 AM
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Me too Randy! Over the past 10 years, I've had receivers from Yamaha, Pioneer, and Denon (all fine machines) in my system and I always seem to gravitate back to the Denons. Subjectivly, they just sound more "robust" to me-don't know how else to put it. BTW, if anyone is worried about the 4 ohm thing, my 3805 has no problem driving magneplanars rated at 4 ohms with a sensitivity rating of 86.


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Re: New Receiver
#73684 12/28/04 02:22 AM
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Just curious, as I will be in the market for a new receiver soon. Does the Denon 3805 have independant bass management for each channel? If not, is this not an issue because the same crossover works well for each channel?

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Pete

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#73685 12/28/04 03:07 AM
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Pete,

No independent BM. Would be sweet to have I suppose but the global crossover works for me in my room.

I'm perfectly happy to have my two subs handle the bass below 120Hz and relieve the mains/surrounds and amps of bass duties. Hell, I paid good money for those subs-I want to get my money's worth out of um'.

I know some of you who may be reading this post are right about now gritting your teeth and squinting about the 120Hz crossover point. But I tell ya what, I get very flat response (+/-4db according to the Rives Audio Test CD 2) in the 20-125Hz range and my system sounds very bass articulate, if I must say so myself. Absolutely cannot localize the subs (just ask bray).

I say to all, don't be shy about trying higher "different-than-normal" crossover settings and sub placement (no matter what size speakers you have) especially if you think your bass sounds even a little boomy/muddy when listening to music. Get yourselves a Rives Audio Test CD 2 (corrected for nonlinearities in the RS meter) and find out what your bass is really doing. Sorry I got off on a tangent Pete.

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Re: New Receiver
#73686 12/28/04 03:56 AM
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I'm not concerned. I was only WINKING.

Re: New Receiver
#73687 12/28/04 04:01 AM
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That is just the feedback I was looking for. I am interested to hear if anyone else really finds great value in independent BM. It sounds great on paper, but does it add that much practically?

Orginally, I was looking H/K, either 630 or 7300. However, the H/K 7300 is huge (20.5 inches deep)! I am not sure if video upconversion is worth the money either. So many options these days. I have a 10 year old sony right now that does Dolby PL, but has no subwoofer out and does not do 5.1. I would like my next receiver to last the next 10 years, anyway.

Re: New Receiver
#73688 12/28/04 03:01 PM
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Two things. Yes...I really like the independant BM on the H/Ks. I believe the Outlaw 950 preamp has the same feature. I found it really handy to break up say the fronts having a crossover of 60 then having the surrounds at say 100 Hz. It's a brilliant idea that needs to be seen more in other companies.

The H/K is a solid piece. It's pretty too. It didn't do everything I was looking for though. But that's me. Most people are very happy with their H/Ks. I had the AVR-630.

On the other note...the video degraded when run through the receiver. It doesn't seem till recently where receivers hit the 100 Mhz video range have I seen virtually no degradation in the picture. But I'm picky...as my wife will tell you

I will tell you, as I will tell all receiver shoppers...go to a store that carries similar speakers to Axioms (B&W, Paradigm) and demo whatever receivers they have there to match with your sound. Now...these won't be cut and dry demos. First and foremost they'll have different room acoustics than your room. Secondly, their equipment will be fully broken in, whereas a new piece of gear needs breakin time (some will likely disagree with this). And thirdly (and probably most important)...they're not Axioms

In any case the BEST solution, if you have it available to you, will be to take a demo receiver home....hook it up...and let your ears be the judge. I can tell you all day what TO get and what NOT TO get. But the bottom line is always what YOU like. And that's the most important.

In a general concensus I think you'd probably be looking at Denon, Marantz, Harman Kardon, Onkyo (and Integra), and Yamaha. If you step it up a little in price you'll be looking at pieces like Outlaw, Rotel and Arcam.

There are others. I just think these are probably the most commonly seen here on the Axiom forum.

Good luck in your quest!


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Re: New Receiver
#73689 12/28/04 03:13 PM
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no BM on the 2805 either, 80hz crossover seems to work good for me, the bass my M60's is fabulous.


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