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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79514 01/29/05 04:10 AM
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Nice! 2 problems with real beer and BBQ. If you are smoking brisket for half a day or more, microbrew can get expensive! Plus, you don't want to waste it pouring it over your meat every once in a while, do you? McTarnahan's Scottish Ale is meant to be drunk in pints from a freshly tapped keg.


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79515 01/29/05 07:33 AM
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Oh, man....if we're gonna start posting gun photos, that means:

A) I havta get out the camera, yadda, yadda, yadda...

B) We're gonna scare the nice Canadians away.


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79516 01/29/05 02:22 PM
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Hey, I posted the first photo and I live in Toronto


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79517 01/29/05 06:46 PM
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WOW!! I must say that this is one of the funniest thread hijacks I've read in a while. Us "Beer Threaders" take no mercy on other threads.

Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79518 01/29/05 09:01 PM
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Yup, I start out with a driver that looks like I made a mistake building my pipe bombs, and yhaall end up with a beer and gun hijacking yeehaw!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79519 01/31/05 05:28 PM
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Anyone remember the Monty Python joke about:

" American beer is like making love in a canoe"????

Bridgeman - yikes...how do you manage to carry those around in our tame society...and more importantly, where in the big smoke do you hang out - so I can avoid it?!?!?!? LOL

Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79520 02/01/05 02:07 AM
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I live in a surprisingly crime free part of darkest Scarborough

Seriously, per-capita gun ownership in Canada has always been fairly similar to the US numbers, but it wasn't real noticeable because we tended to have smaller cities, less crowding, less poverty and less racial tension. Toronto is starting to catch up with the US cities in that regard, unfortunately.

Owning handguns in Canada just takes a lot of paperwork. Predictably lawyers, engineers and IT folks are the only ones willing to put up with the paperwork so attending a pistol match around here is like going to Comdex.

"Carry" means something totally different here, though.

US - stick the .45 down the back of your pants. Carefully.

Canada - disable the firearm by locking the trigger, obstructing the chamber with a locking device, disassembling the firearm or removing the firing pin. Place the unloaded firearm in an opaque container and secure with a second lock. Store the ammunition in a separate locked container. Party.

There are two ways to get a handgun in Canada. Let's call them options 1 and 2.

OPTION 1

Attend a two day safety course. Don't make stupid comments in the classroom. Return a week or two later for written and hands-on safety tests.

Take the test results and apply for a Restricted Firearm Permission and Aquisition License (PAL). Fill out the 7 page form including your partner/spouse's name plus anyone else you have been involved with in the last two years, along with a statement from each of them that he/she is aware that you wish to obtain firearms. Send the application in along with $80. Wait while the firearms center checks with :

- the local police

- the RCMP

- the Chief Firearms Officer in your province

- your spouse

- your neighbors

- anyone else they feel like speaking with

Some time later, a permit shows up in the mail. Congratulations... this means nothing except now the police have the right to inspect your house any time they like to ensure that your firearms are being stored in accordance with the law, including unpublished "Orders in Council" (bypassing Parliament) which may make firearms you already own illegal without notice.

Oh, so you want to actually BUY a gun. Sorry, drifted off there. Next step is to join a club. Pay some money, provide references, get interviewed by the entire board of directors. If anyone on the board doesn't like you, too bad, buh-bye. Sign up for 10-12 probationary shoots, generally supervised by a cranky old ex-military instructor who will do his best to get you angry. Smile. Be careful.

10 shoots later, no bad vibes. Pay some more money, one more interview, and welcome to the club. Fill out some more forms, including something called an "ATT application".

Now you can go out and buy a gun. Go to the gun shop, pick one out, pay $1000. Not so fast there sonny, you might OWN that gun but you can't take it home without more paperwork.

Based on your membership in the club, the Chief Firearms Officer in whatever province you live will (after a few days to check with police, RCMP, spouse, neighbors) issue an Authorization to Transport document indicating that you may transport that specific firearm from the store to your place of residence, between specific hours on specific days, by a "reasonably direct route". Go to the store. Buy a gun case because you left yours at home. Now you own a gun but you can't take it out of your house.

A few weeks later, a more general Authorization to Transport document arrives in the mail. This is the one you applied for after completing your probationary shoots. It authorizes you to transfer the firearm from your home to the range, on specified days and times, for the purpose of target shooting, via a reasonably direct route, following all applicable safety and storage laws. If you filled out the application correctly, it also authorizes you to bring said firearm home again.

Woo hoo, now you're a gun owner. You can take the gun exactly one place, as specified in the ATT. If you want to take the gun somewhere else, you call up the Provincial Firearms Officer and apply for a temporary Authorization to Transport. If you want to stop at your friend's place for dinner on the way home from the range, you call up the Provincial Firearms Officer and apply for a temporary Authorization to Transport. You must have a hard copy of the temporary ATT, your "permanent" ATT, and your registration certificate with the firearm at all times. You get the idea. There aren't a lot of crazies running around with legally owned handguns (we get perhaps one every 25-30 years in the whole country) -- nobody can handle the paperwork.

OPTION B

Go to any school and ask a few questions. Bring $500 in the evening. Take your gun home. Take it anywhere. Party.


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79521 02/01/05 02:26 AM
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On the other hand, if you ARE willing to go through all the paperwork you can have a heck of a lot of fun and meet some really nice people. These shots are from the IPSC National Championship in Barrie last July. Almost 300 competitors and their families from all over Canada, including some from the US and Europe. I think I placed about 255th








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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79522 02/01/05 02:28 AM
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Hey Jon? Were you done with that post regarding that whole UPS experience? I'd like to participate in this hijack if you don't mind!!??


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Re: Don't let this happen to your driver!! (ugly)
#79523 02/01/05 02:46 AM
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It may be the most frustrating blessing in disquise I have ever had. SVS donated these to the NFL for charity. SVS shipped to NFL. The NFL charity assoc. shipped them out of Tampa, from Tampa to here (I guess) is where they got hammered. UPS sent an "inspector" over, he sends the report to the ins. co. They have paid the claim. The charity org. out of Tampa is going to refund the amount I paid them (did not get the money yet, but they seem on the up & up) And they have no interest in me returning the products, cause the claim payment is equal to what I paid them, and I have had alot of B.S. over it. That means I put in two drivers, which won't be free at all, but SVS is being real cool with me working on the situation, even though they had nothing to to with the mishap. And I gotta do some woodwork. it's been a headache, but it seems like it's gonna work out. OR I can ship it all back for a full refund.


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