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Re: Please help me pick
#84024 03/05/05 03:59 PM
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My vote is for the Grand Master.
After visiting some other forums, I see that your doing your homework well. Your getting some all around good advice.
Good luck with your choices and be sure and let us know how it turns out, pictures included please.
FYI: I went the HSU route and I'm very pleased, but I'm positive you could go with Axiom, HSU, or SVS and be happy. There just isnt a bad choice there.


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Re: Please help me pick
#84025 03/06/05 06:23 PM
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Between those 2 I would go for the Epic 50 500.You say you like to listen to loud music and the floorstanders are probably a little better for that. I dont know what the point is of buying bookshelf sized speakers and then putting them on a stand, they still take up the same amount of space for all practical purpose.

Then again the Epic 60 500 comes with the VP-150 which I really like and the ability to go even louder for a minimal cost($422.00.) It is always better to have the ability to play louder than you usually do just to show off every now and then.

If I had it to do over again I would go with the Epic 80 600. That would get rid of any upgraditis, and actually save money in the long run.

I am dying to put up the EP 600 against my SVS. If it was better I could sell the SVS and get some money back. But it would still be cheaper or about the same to buy another SVS than upgrade it, so I cant find an economic reason to justify it. And I know 2 SVS PB-12 PLUS 2'S would blow away one EP 600. I would have liked an all Axiom system.

The M80's will play SUPER LOUD even with my 150 watt HK amp. Every now and then I think everyone gets the urge to blow the doors off the house. I get it about once a week...


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Re: Please help me pick
#84026 03/07/05 05:02 PM
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OK. After being away this past weekend and thinking about which package I should get. I have decided to go with the Epic Grand Master 175 with the SVS PB10 ISD sub. I don't know if I mentioned this before but my budget is $1700. That said, I will be putting the M22ti's on brackets instead of stands. Will the sound quality suffer by me placing the speakers on brackets? I don't know how far away from the walls should the speakers be.


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Re: Please help me pick
#84027 03/07/05 09:39 PM
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Before you make your final decision:

A "Mind altering, Change of Life Event" happened today.

My Grand daughter asked me to put on a cartoon DVD this morning, one with Big, Orchestral peices.

I just recieved new M50s last Friday afternoon to replace my beloved M3s. They got their first real workout on that cartoon DVD. The M3s are large enough to contain an orchestra of slightly diminished proportions, the M50s are large enough to hold a complete orchestra of full-sized instruments.

Even my wife is impressed.

Just a thought,
Rich.

Re: Please help me pick
#84028 03/07/05 09:51 PM
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Ok, maybe not "exactly" full-sized, but pretty big, (compared to the M3s) or probably the M22s as well. A large improvement none the less.

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#84029 03/08/05 01:58 PM
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funny you should say that.. i have found that most of my animated features(finding nemo, monsters inc, spirit, bugs life, toy story, shrek, etc) have some of the best sound tracks and sound effects on my HT. i just love letting my son watch 'his' movies on the HT cause i get just as much enjoyment out of them!!

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Re: Please help me pick
#84030 03/08/05 02:16 PM
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Me too, John. And, I don't even have any kids. I'm looking forward to The Incredibles next week.



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Re: Please help me pick
#84031 03/08/05 03:03 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got out of my research and with the help of others here in deciding the M22's is that the M22's are the same as the M50's but without the "BOOM!!!" That is why I'm getting the SVS PB10 ISD sub so that I can get that "BOOM!!!". I am going to hang the M22's on the wall with brackets so that they won't take up that much space. Which brings me to the question that I asked earlier. Is the sound going to be affected while there hung on the wall with brackets?


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Re: Please help me pick
#84032 03/08/05 04:49 PM
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I havent heard the M50s, so I cant comment on them.
I have heard the M22s, and matched with a good sub I believe your going to be VERY HAPPY.
As for the wall mount brackets, I think you are going to be fine. Those brackets should give you just enough clearance btween the wall and the speaker.
Good Luck
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Re: Please help me pick
#84033 03/08/05 05:20 PM
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Actually the M22s are probably more like the M60s without the low end.


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