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Re: Bi-amping Denon 3805 in 5.1 to L/R(240watts@8o
#87167 03/27/05 04:01 AM
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Hmm. Seemed (don't make me say it ) too good to be true...


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Re: Bi-amping Denon 3805 in 5.1 to L/R(240watts@8o
#87168 03/27/05 04:04 AM
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Yeah man .You are right if it seems to good to be true.................you know the rest.


Rick


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Re: Bi-amping Denon 3805 in 5.1 to L/R(240watts@8o
#87169 03/27/05 09:10 PM
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I received a reply from the source of my 3805 bi-amping information.

Reply as stated;

That is correct. Of course you are not getting 240WPC or bridging the Denon using this method, you are merely supply the high and low with its own 120WPC. The main advantage is in gaining 3dB more headroom and having two dedicated amplifiers for each speaker...


We used the 240 number as an illustration of having two 120 W amps going to each of the main speakers, not to suggest there were actually 240WPC. Certain people latched on to this and misread the article prompting us to change it (months ago) to read "2 x 120W":

http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/Denon-AVR3805_review04.php

I am sure Alan will confirm this as well on tuesday.

"It sure sounded good though"

Troy

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M80ti &/or M60ti
VP150
QS8
EP350 &/or EP500
Amp still to be determined (Denon 3805, Outlaw?/Rotel)


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Re: Bi-amping Denon 3805 in 5.1 to L/R(240watts@8o
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I love that "we use 240 as an illustration" bit. In other words, "We're lying marketing division bastards."


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Ken that was right to the point.I do agree with ya though


Rick


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#87172 03/28/05 02:23 AM
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One of my major pet peeves is misleading (or outright untruthful, as this appeared to be) marketing materials. Can't stand it. They already push us and push us to buy stuff, then they have to lie about it too. Screw that! If it's a good product (as I'm sure the Denons are) they should stand on their own merits.


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#87173 03/28/05 02:27 AM
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Amen Brother!!!


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I think winterpeg's source of info on the bi-amping came from the Audioholics web site and not from Denon. In fact, I read somewhere that Denon discourages the bi-amp procedure with the 3805.


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Troy, that reply you received was in part self-contradictory . Although it acknowledged that 240 watts wouldn't be obtained, it claimed 3dB more "headroom". 3dB more headroom over 120 watts would be 240 watts. The increase in headroom is 0dB.


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#87176 03/28/05 03:38 AM
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Exactly... mathematically - 3dB is a doubling of current. Acoustically, 6dB "sounds" twice as loud.

Bren R.

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