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Re: Wire wire wire! AHHHHH!!!! Help!!!
#9175 03/04/03 07:12 AM
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I've been waiting for the right time to post this.

"...As with the amplifiers, there was a notable reduction in the already low amounts of smear and blur. A fine curtain of mist was lifted from in front of the soundstage of my digital sources, allowing music to emerge with a greater sense of clarity. Again, the sound of the components didn't change their sonic stripes, but there was an increased sense of ease and centeredness that was clearly audible.
... Backgrounds became quieter, low-level detail retrieval improved markedly, and dynamic contrasts took on greater subtlety and sharper contrasts.
... The Monacos are expensive, but their splendid appearance and their across-the-board improvements in resolution, imaging, and dynamics make them a "must audition" for anyone looking to maximize the performance of a high-performance system."

Follow the link to find out what this guy is writing about. You won't believe it.

http://www.stereophile.com/fullarchives.cgi?745

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#9176 03/04/03 08:00 AM
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Very impressive, and I'm terribly tempted to go with one of the 4 shelf systems, but I want to know first what effect it has on rhythm and pace. Also I wonder if the reviewer's selection of cables was wide enough to reveal all the benefits.


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#9177 03/04/03 09:21 AM
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Shouldnt the sub wire be shielded?


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#9178 03/04/03 09:43 AM
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Yes, Adam, the sub connector should be shielded; that's why coaxial cable, which is shielded, is used.


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#9179 03/04/03 04:52 PM
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LOL......those stereophile guys are so full of themselves.

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#9180 03/04/03 08:34 PM
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Well, with due fear of overdoing it, I could not resist citing another example here. I hope Axiom won't get sued... LOL

The wire in every [Acoustic Zen] cable is made with the Ohno Continuous Cast (OCC) process, which drastically reduces the number of crystal boundaries in a given length of wire. According to Lee, the thousands of boundaries between the metal crystals in a typical cable result in a lengthy break-in period—the signal must burn in the path of least resistance through the cable. (Lee seems to be correct about this. I have had lengthy, tedious experience with high-performance cables that have taken up to 500 hours to finish breaking in; listening through all those hours is not an enjoyable process. The AZ cables gave about 90% of their ultimate performance fresh out of the box, and stabilized completely within 40 hours. That alone makes them something of a marvel.) ...

As a scientist, I have to say that this type of rhetorical style irritates me the most. Certain terms and styles often found in the scientific literature are used in these descriptions within an utterly unscientific context.

This same kind of rhetoric is ubiquitous in, for example, the marketing literature of the nutritional supplement / herbal medicine industry. I am afraid that less-informed people may be readily swayed by the pseudoscientific dress of these marketing lingoes. These are, in every way, as malicious as those nice "poetic" description of sound quality differences that do not exist.

Cheers!

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#9181 03/05/03 05:21 AM
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Holy cow! Now that is a bunch of garbage. If my understanding is correct, electrons barely even move much when in an AC signal so this might not have any real relevance to what happens. Plus I don't think there is enough current to really burn anything in at all. Last time I had my sytem cranks my cables were cool to the touch.

The one I really enjoy hearing is the directionality of cables carrying AC signals, HA!

Newcomers to this hobby must be careful where they step as to avoid the BS.

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#9182 03/05/03 06:21 AM
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I found that the MonsterBass300 Subwoofer Cable, which is shielded, is about right for my system. I bought mine from http://store.yahoo.com/cell-tronics/monsteraudio.html and paid $29.00 for 4 a meter cable.

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#9183 03/11/03 06:42 PM
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So its off to Home Depot for 12gauge wire.

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#9184 03/11/03 07:55 PM
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druiem,

Perhaps it is just my local Home Depot store, but be aware that they might carry only up to 14awg. Speaker or lamp wires 12awg or greater are not that common. If you do not want an unexpected wait (I know you are excited), you may want to go ahead and order the wires at places like partsexpress.com, who in fact carries "branded" bulk wires at better prices than Home Depot.

Cheers!

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