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Right you are, Ken;
Bi-wiring only makes cents for wire vendors. And for those wishing to adorn their equipment with some more Audio Jewelery to impress their non-audio friends! (Not to mention a few misinformed but desperate individuals who are grasping at expensive straws in order to get that last little bit of perceived audio perfection!)

Darren
Although this doesnt seem to be a very updated list, I think you can get a general idea of actual WPC for different brands of recievers/amps.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/3401/ratevsac.htm

Good Luck

Yes, ken, bi-amping is what I am actully doing. There are 2 sections of the amp, for fronts only designed to produce a "warmer" sounds to the mids'highs. these are the top binding posts on the 60s (and others) there is a notable improvement when wired this way with my particular amp at least. Bi-wired in the sense that there are 2 sets of wires, but bi-amp from 2 different sections of the amp.

No offense meant, but boy, that's a weird amp design if it's specifically altering the frequencies.

wow, thanks for all the help and advice everyone. the only thing im not sure about now is whether to get the m60's or the receiver first. also one more question, i plan to buy the axiom speakers wire along with the speakers and im not sure if the hk receivers accept 1/4" or 3/8" spade connectors, anyone with a hk receiver know which one fits? thanks again

Neither fits on my H/K 525. Bare wire or banana are your only hope in that case.

no offense taked, but how is it weird? You have drivers that are at "different frequencies" as you state. Why would you not drive them accordingly. The design is much revealed by many, and after my listening, I concur. The amp is a sunfire 600x2 2 channel amp. check it out. My ears don't lie..........to me at least - LOL

argh, i'll probably still get the axiom speaker wire but with two single spring bananna plugs for the receiver... and stay with the spade for the speakers

What's the model number ? Jon it looks like you need a set of M80s

I was curious about the Sunfire 600x2 amp, so I found the user manual. This is what it states about the standard "voltage drive" vs. the more tube-like "current drive" (emphasis added):

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I've included two kinds of left and right outputs:
(1) a standard voltage-source (i.e., near zero impedance) output for all typical applications and:
(2) a higher-impedance current-source output, which many prefer for electrostatic, planar magnetic, or ribbon speakers. Or you can biwire your system with the voltage source driving the woofer(s) and the current source driving the upper part of the system. In many cases this provides by far the best possible in ter face between the amplifier and the speaker system.

Whichever way you decide to hook up the Sunfire power amplifier, it will create a multilayered sound stage that is deep, wide, three-dimensional, and utterly believable. The optional current-source output can coax forth a sensuous, delicately detailed musical voice long associated with low-powered classic tube amplifiers. (The current-source characteristic of vacuum tubes is the dominant factor in the sound stage delivery of classic tube amplifiers.)

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NOTE: The Current Source output is a Voltage Source modified to yield a Current Source impedance of one ohm. This corresponds approximately to a vaccum tube amplifier output impedance and constitutes the dominant factor in the soundstage delivery of classic vaccum tube power amplifiers.
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So the Current Source output utilizes an artificially high output impedance -- most solid state amps are in the 0.0X ohm region -- to mimic the voltage fluctuations tube amps produce when connected to your average speaker. (Naturally, these fluctuations alter a speaker's frequency response, which is the source of "tubey" sound.)

While researching this stuff, I found a detailed article that talks about the role output resistance plays in how an amp sounds. It's an interesting read.