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lol inane--part of me is
but when i ordered my axioms i told the missus if there wasnt a big diffrence i would return them----she pointed out the big diff.
but i always thought my old speakers sounded great--no i know what i was missing and am getting the same thought with the reciever. I have no problems keeping the 811 but i was reading about that microphone setup that automatically adjust the speakers for you---WAY COOL
but i dont wanna drop any money on a new one unless i know it will make a big diffrence in the suround sound.

gabe,
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bug: that is an excellent article and I think that the author explains it simply and to the point!!!

If your Denon is really doing what it is supposed to, I doubt that you will see any significance by going to 200 watt monos or seperate amp. If the Denon isn't, then I suspect that you will see a difference. I look forward to your "experiment."

Do you have a sound meter? If so, what level do you listen? Someone posted a link somewhere on this board yesterday that gave the conversion factors between sound level, speaker efficiency and output power. GREAT post. In my case, listening at 70-75 dB, I only need a few watts. Tomorrow I will try the experiment with NASCAR!

Notice in that article the picture of the Outlaw amp?

Depending on what you go with, yes, you will notice a difference. Don’t get all hung up on the whole “loudness” debate. It isn’t a matter of how loud it will play, but how well it sounds at higher volume levels.

I just looked at the specs on your pioneer, and would bet a paycheck that if you were to go with something like the HK 635, Denon 3805 or comparable, you will most definitely notice an improvement in overall SQ…..I’m not calling your receiver junk by any means, but it is an entry level AVR, and I suspect the wattage rating on it is very optimistic.

Rat,

I pulled that link from another poster but I agree about simple and to point.

Alan seems to think that the 80's only get better when amplified. He said he normally recommends 80 to 110 watts for most Axiom speakers but the 80's can handle lots of power.

I check sound levels frequently and normally I see 65-75 during tv conversation sequences. I tend to listen to dvds at that same level but it spikes to 90-95 during high action. Music - generally in the 80's, but if I'm in another room it's 95-100.

I did notice the Outlaw and noted that the article was dated 2001.

if im not mistaken,i think they test the m80s with over 400 wpc

Here is a word or two from Alan Lofft regarding the power handling of the M80's.

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if im not mistaken,i think they test the m80s with over 400 wpc

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I had a woofer go out on one of my 80s a couple of days after receiving them and thought for a second that maybe I had blown the the speaker out because the dbs were well above 100 with the Rotel amp. After speaking with the Axiom folks I was assured that my 300 watt amp wouldn't come close to blowing these speakers and it was nothing more than a defective driver, after futher conversation I was told that these speakers (80s) are tested with well over a thousand...(1200 I'm thinking) watts for several hours at a time.

Regardless of the watts they can handle, to me they just sound better than the 60s. Matter of fact I would almost bet that my pair of 60s will be sold off for another pair of 80s in the future.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

1200 watts??

They must be built like battleships!

bug: I am strongly leaning toward the Outlaw 990 pre/ processor and the new 790 amp (when it is actually offered). 300 watts per channel ought to be just fine. I may change my mind, but that is the way I am thinking right now.

I am also thinking about getting a pair of QS-8s. I also have wife approval. Isn't that nice??? I received a nice email from JC this afternoon describing the difference of using QS-8s versus M60s. I appreciate Axioms prompt and in depth response!

That will probably be followed by a SVS sub.

In the meanwhile, I am seriously looking at a new Samsung 61" 1080P wide screen TV. They should be out on the market in about 2 weeks. My son and I looked at on of the Samsung 720P set versus a Sony 1080P and there was no comparison. Well, we'll see.

When are you going to order your new amps??