Swap M60 for M80?
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Hello everyone,
I didn't get M80s due to my receiver not being able to properly handle the 4 ohm impedance. However, I am now getting upgraditis! I can blast the 60s pretty good, but want to go LOUDER!
Could I purchase the Outlaw 200 1 Channel amp to power M80s? Would it mess up the balance between the fronts powered by the Outlaw and the remaining channels being powered only by my receiver. My receiver is the Pioneer VSX-1015.
Thanks!!!!
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Did you say louder? Huh? Mike if you decide to go m80 on us then yes you can use the preouts of your pioneer to use a pair of outlaw m200's. After you add the amp to your front channels simply recalibrate your speakers with an spl meter to achieve proper balance(levels) again.
*Michael* AV123 Refugee - X-LS Encore, X-Voce, X-Omnis, Elt-Dpa's Denon AVR-591 Magnavox NB500MGX BDP
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Mike,
How loud are you playing them right now? Do you have an SPL meter you can use to measure it? I saw in a previous post that you have a Pioneer VSX-1015, which does 150W into 8 Ohms. This should be sufficient to drive the M60s to a level of around 110dB, which is EXTREMELY loud. Remember that a doubling in amp power (300W/channel) would only result in a 3dB increase in volume.
I invite you to play around with this SPL calculator. Use 93db as the efficieny of the speakers, and then plug in numbers to your heart's content.
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3-6 dB increase is about all you can expect.
I agree about the SPL meter. Get a handle on how loud you are really listening.
If your speakers produce a "strained" sound, you might have a receiver problem.
You might benefit from the upgrade. If your speakers sound clean and tight at your levels, you're probably fine.
If you have upgraditis bad and you must have their best speaker and new amps......go for it!
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I find it hard to believe that yours 60's aren't LOUD enough. My Denon 2805 and 60's combination is plenty loud, unless you want to go deaf. Don't get me wrong, I like cranking it up from time to time, and have been to many concerts with insane dB levels. I find it hard to believe your 60's don't make you happy.
I would try checking SPL, and possibly a different receiver before opinions of the 60's are made
60's 150 350 4-Qs8's
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Wow! My set up comes at 110 dbs when I am blasting it. I guess that is loud enough :-)
Shane D
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Grab a couple of the Outlaw amps AND a pair of M80's. You will love what the separate amps do for you !
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In reply to:
Grab a couple of the Outlaw amps AND a pair of M80's. You will love what the separate amps do for you !
Ditto
Rick
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud
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Mike, your 1015 is a very powerful amp(including at 4 ohms, as tests have shown), so it's highly unlikely that you'd get a significant benefit from those 200 watt Outlaws. Balance results from calibrating the speakers to equal volume and doesn't depend on the particular amp in use.
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one thing you could think of is getting some amps for your 60's to see if that will make you happy.. i have a 5 channel marantz, and it has no problem pushing the 60's that i have to any level of sound that i want them to go to... if you get the amp's which you are saying you might want to get anyhow, and try them with the 60's you have lost nothing, and you might find out that is all you needed.. on the other hand if you decide you want to still get the 80's then your already set up.. remember, for every 1 db it is 2X as loud.. i think......
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