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Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99424 06/19/05 03:36 PM
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How big is the room you will be listening in ? That might help with the "M60 8 ohm vs. M80 4 ohm but might need separate amps" question.


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Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99425 06/19/05 05:18 PM
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I’ve heard all the Paradigms. The Studio 100, vrs 3 is the only speaker they have that can compare to the M80’s. The Monitor series wasn’t even in the ball park, IMHO. I haven’t’ heard M60’s, so no comment there.

My perception to the Studio 100’s sound is identical to how Alan stated it, but I would add that the 80’s seam to have a tighter mid range. That guy’s starting to scare me………


Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99426 06/20/05 12:36 AM
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I have heard the M60 a lot in my own home, and at spiff's, also have spent some time with Studio 60's. In the very least, those two speakers are comparable, and anybody thinking about spending money on Studio 60's should seek out a pair of M60's for an audition.

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Thanks for all of the feedback guys! My room is 18' x 25'. I was looking at the NAD T773 a while back but kind of got scared by the hissing posts I was reading. Are you saying that I should reconsider? I havent ordered the Marantz yet so I am not stuck with it by any means. I am still open to other receiver suggestions. I have about 1500.00 I can use on a receiver including tax.

Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99428 06/20/05 02:07 AM
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HK 7300 should probably be on your list then. I think you can find it for about 1300.

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mdrew is correct - www.onecall.com is an authorized Harmon Kardon dealer, and has the 7300 for $1300. It looks like a pretty nice unit - and you can always purchase separate amps later if you feel the need.

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#99430 06/20/05 09:53 AM
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How would you guys rate the HK-7300 vs the NAD T773. I found the NAD for $1400.00 new and the HK for $1299.00 (which I think is probably a refurb although it has a 2 year factory warranty).

From Alan's comments I think the Marantz is out due to the 4 ohm load. I could probably get by with the M60's and use the Marantz but I have the extra money to spend right now and I dont want to miss the opportunity to get the M80's bec it may be a long time before I talk my wife into letting me spend more on my system.

What gripes me is that I called the Marantz tech line and the guy there said there was not any doubt the the SR8500 could handle the 4 Ohm speakers. Guess I can tell who he works for...

Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99431 06/20/05 10:47 AM
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IF you have the room, probably the Harmon Kardon - UAV tested it as delivering 214 WPC @ 1000 Hz and 197 WPC @ 20 Hz, with ALL SEVEN channels driven into a four ohm load.

The NAD is limited to 131 WPC into a 4 ohm load, with all 7 channels driven.

That is excellent performance, the biggest downside is the ease of use. We will likely go with the NAD because my kids can use the front of the receiver easily - that is worth giving up the 2 dB difference is output, though in real world performance, it is likely not a 2 dB difference, as NAD usually has more short term headroom than its competitors.

For two GOOD, online sources, look at www.dmc-electronics.com for NAD and www.onecall.com for the H-K. Both will price match, and both are authorized dealers.

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#99432 06/20/05 06:12 PM
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The 7300 has some pretty trick video processing. Not sure about the NAD. You might want to send TNTGUY a PM. He just upgraded from the 635 to the 7300.

The 7300 at One Call is new. I bought my 7200 from them. No problems, and quick. If you do buy it and need the remote sensor for the Zone 2, give me a holler. I’ll give you a heck of deal on it. I no longer need it.

Craig,
The 7200 is a piece of cake to set up and use (I suspect the 7300 to be similar). My 11 YO has no troubles using it, or the MX 850 (I just love this remote). Once you go through the initial set up, it’s as simple as selecting the input source on the remote, and the AVR takes it from there – included the X-over settings for each devise, type of surround and input path you previously set up for each devise plugging into the back. I wasn’t all that impressed with the sensor mounted on the remote. I ended up using my radio shack meter to calibrate the channels. Then it’s simple to add or take away db’s from whatever channel you want. One thing to keep in mind though, it does run pretty warm. Not hot to the touch, but you will definitely want to keep it well ventilated. It took me about an hour to read the manual and perform the initial set up. - And I’m horrible at that crap.


Re: Axiom / Paradigm comparrison
#99433 06/20/05 07:25 PM
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I recently upgraded from an HK 635 to the 7300. As Craig and mdrew mentioned OneCall is an authorized HK dealer and sells the 7300 for $1342. Haven't had time to do extensive listening but I can already tell the 7300 is a great unit. I love HK and their high current designs. Clean and clear power. No question both AVRs are excellent. Once I have had a chance to use the Farouja processing in the 7300 I will post my thoughts on that and comparisons to the 635 here in a couple of weeks. Neverhappy will be receving his 773 soon and I am sure he will post his thoughts on it when it arrives.

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