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#9974 - 04/12/03 04:59 PM SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
SpockTheater Offline
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Registered: 04/06/03
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Loc: Shreveport, Louisiana
I'm wondering if there are any other subs that can get the huge, wonderful sound quality of the SVS 20-39Pci, but without the massive size? Plus without having to spend a fortune. Any suggestions?

SpockTheater

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#9975 - 04/12/03 07:32 PM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
sushi Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
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Loc: Dallas, TX
How about the Hsu VTF-3?

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#9976 - 04/12/03 07:57 PM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
ravi_singh Offline
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Loc: Montreal
SVS makes a cubic sub these days. I've read it is very performant.

check it out on their website

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#9977 - 04/13/03 09:22 AM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
alan Offline

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Registered: 01/29/02
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Loc: Toronto/New York/parry Sound
Hi SpockTheater,

It's the laws of physics come into play in subwoofer design. If you want really deep bass and huge output, you have to use either a big enclosure and large driver OR you can get very low frequencies from a much smaller enclosure but you must use a huge amplifier (1,000 watts or more) and a long-excursion driver with an enormous magnet. That's what Sunfire does to get 17-Hz frequencies from its 9-inch cube. It's $1,500 and will have limits on maximum output.

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#9978 - 04/13/03 09:40 AM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
Zarak Offline
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Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1852
Loc: PA
I have to 20-39PCi, and while I do like the sound from it, I think I am going to have to send it back. It's just too big. Unfortunately, it sounds like that is going to mean a step down in the quality of the bass department. I'm likely going to get the VTF-2 instead. The VTF-3 is a bit too much $ for me. Unless anyone has another suggestion, it seems the VTF-2 is about as good as it gets in the ~$500 range.

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#9979 - 04/15/03 07:10 AM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
fmowry Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 109
Loc: Baltimore, MD
I'm in the process of building my own. Hometheaterforum has a DIY section and while many people build huge boxes or tubes, you can find documentation for smaller subs that end up cheaper and better performing than the VTF-2. That is a good sub for the money though. There are a few free sub design software programs out there that can show you output and frequency response given the specs of a driver.

Frank

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#9980 - 04/24/03 09:27 PM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
acgman Offline
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Registered: 09/02/02
Posts: 11

A very nice DIY package for the money (especially for canadian buyers): http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=EZSUB14SHIVA


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#9981 - 04/24/03 10:39 PM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
lrock59040 Offline
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Registered: 01/13/03
Posts: 3
How about the pb1-Isd from svs, it's a box sub. Still excellent bang for buck and runs $200 cheaper than the vtf-3.

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#9982 - 04/25/03 09:12 AM Re: SVS 20-39Pci without the huge size?
fmowry Offline
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Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 109
Loc: Baltimore, MD
I'm usning the same driver as acgman's post (Adire Shiva) but in a ported tube about 2 foot tall, 20 inches around. WIll finish it up this weekend, recalibrate everything, then post some reviews.

Frank

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