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What do I need
#244265 02/02/09 02:43 PM
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Hi, after extensive reading I have decided to give the Axioms a try.

Not sure what to get though. I have a small room (20ft x 15ft x 10ft high)
I want good quality sound but am a bit worried by the physical size of the big speakers, especially the centre one. Also, I have heard that the Axioms are v. good on the low end, do I really need a sub?

Thanks

Paul

Re: What do I need
Paul Brackstone #244271 02/02/09 02:55 PM
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Welcome Paul. You'll get lots of help from the guys here. They are good at spending other peoples $$!!! BTW, that room would be considered medium, even med/large by some est. Axiom's flagship M80s are actually not "huge" in the physical sense compared to many other towers although fairly deep(huge in sound, yes). Give the forum a little more info as to what your goals are, and what you're looking for soundwise, budgetwise.


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Adrian #244272 02/02/09 03:07 PM
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Welcome to the forum Paul Brackstone \:\)

One question

What is your budget?





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Re: What do I need
Paul Brackstone #244278 02/02/09 03:49 PM
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Hi and welcome to the Axiom forums,

Your room is 3,000 cu. ft, which definitely qualifies it as medium large (an average living room is about 2,100 cu. ft; a "small" room, about 1,500 cu. ft, and a large/huge room is 4,000 to 8,000 cu. ft).

Your room is certainly big enough that you could appreciate the the deep bass extension of one of our tower speakers--the M80v2 or M60v2--plus a subwoofer if you want deep bass down to the 20-Hz region. By illustration, some movie soundtracks have lots of low bass at 20 Hz and even deeper (War of the Worlds remake).

No tower speaker can reproduce a lot of output below about 28 Hz (the M80v2 has good output to that frequency, but not nearly as much as a good subwoofer like the EP350v3 or EP500 will produce). The bottom string on a grand piano is at 28 Hz.

Smaller bookshelf speakers like the M3 and M22 have useful audible output to 40 Hz (that's the bottom string on an electric bass or acoustic bass), but it isn't very powerful, hence a subwoofer will extend deep bass output another musical octave lower. Your room isn't so large that you could not use a bookshelf speaker plus sub combo like the M22 v2 plus the EP350 subwoofer. That will get you performance almost as good as the M80v3 tower, however the tower speakers will play at extremely loud levels, whereas bookshelf speakers do have limits. The M22v2 with a sub is no slouch but it can't match the clean powerhouse levels of the M80 or M60 towers.

You should use the VP150 center channel in a room the size of yours.

Regards,
Alan


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Re: What do I need
alan #244281 02/02/09 04:16 PM
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alan #244298 02/02/09 05:03 PM
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 Quote:
That will get you performance almost as good as the M80v3 tower

V3? Really?


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I'd hoped that was typo............


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Re: What do I need
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
V3? Really?


I had the same question.


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Re: What do I need
Zimm #244304 02/02/09 05:16 PM
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It's a typo...


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Ken.C #244305 02/02/09 05:17 PM
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Are you 100% sure they are not set to release a v3?


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