Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners M3's and bass

I've got a couple of different "front three" sets - Yamaha NS-444/333, Energy C-C50/C-100, and Klipsch Synergy C2/B2. Long story how I came to end up with three sets of speakers - I've only got two rooms. (I've got a couple of subs too.)

I only have room for bookshelves. I'm thinking of M3's and a VP150 center.

Question I have though is about bass. I realize that I'm not to expect the kind of bass that floorstanders can provide. However, with the Energy's I have, the bass is *almost* good enough where, for music, a sub isn't needed. The Synergy's are also very close to having enough bass for two channel music. The Yamaha's are absolutely not. Then when I add a sub it sounds better to me to have some bass coming from the bookshelves as well...just sounds more full to me with the bookshelves that sound pretty good down low.

When I read reviews - for example of the Speaker Company's $79 speakers, I read reviewers say that the bookshelves they are reviewing are almost good enough down low to not need a sub for music (but you obviously won't get the deepest frequencies unless you add a sub.) That's what I want.

Do the M3's fit that description? Is there any reason why it is totally stupid for me to care about whether they have a good amount of bass?

I've had M3's for a year now and they are very good at producing low end sound. For music, I didn't need a sub but for movies it is necessary to reach the real low end. The M3's are excellent little speakers and really come to life when power is fed to them. Don't think you can go wrong if you pick up a pair.

I've cranked up my M3s and felt they provided enough low end energy to satisfy. No, you won't get the deep undertones on some instruments like the piano, but you're getting most of the musical info.

Welcome to the forum cpa5oh,

How big is your room in which you are planning on using the M3's in without a sub?

Wow thanks for the super quick replies.

Room is small-ish - probably 12 x 12.

And I do have and plan to use a sub - just that based on my experiences so far I have noticed that things sound better with a sub if the bookshelves can provide some decent bass themselves.

cpa5oh,

The M3's would be a very good choice for that size of room. I think you would be pleasantly surprised on the bass they would put out with running them full range without a sub . In a small room the M3's are very impressive without a subwoofer and they would deliver that "full" sound that you are looking for.

Good Luck!

That's what I wanted to hear...looks like I'll be ordering up a set. And I'm glad nobody called me a dumb newb, either...:-)

cpa5oh,

If you have any more questions pertaining to your setup everyone here is more than willing to help you (doesn't have to relate to Axiom products either). You won't find a more friendly forum.

Let us know how the M3's work out if you order them .

Cheers!

I'm considering ordering a pair for my kitchen. I thought I would go for the M22's but after reading the product descriptions I felt the M3 would sound fuller without a sub. Is that true?

(They wan't call you a "dumd-ass" till you ask the same questions over and over about 3 different ways and then change your mind about 4 different times) (Right guys?)

That's generally considered accurate around here, Bob. I don't own any M3s, but having heard them, I can say they're really nice speakers.