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Hi: Starting a new thread in right section

So I am now into the 5 days of comparison of these fine speakers & a winner is starting to emerge before I get to that here is a list of the artists I've listed to: Dire Straits,Billy Joel,Bruce Hornsby,Kenny G.,Tragically Hip,Sade,Amanda Marshall,Metallica,Bon Jovi,, more to come and open to any others that have music that will test speakers.

So with the above artists(many different types of songs) with no room correction used the 800F's have emerged as the winners as of right now they are airier at the top end,more detailed over all,sound stage is a bit wider,the Axiom's are better on the bottom end that is not a surprise...but they do not embarrass the 800's in this area.Have not tried movies yet as music is in my opinion more revealing.....next stage is to continue to try more types of music hence my comment above of any well recorded music too....on Friday will have time to calibrate speakers & then try some good action films with loud scenes and subtle one's too. The surprising part is other then bass response the 800F's are noticeably better in my room so far and to repeat even in the bass area the 800's are only slightly behind the M60's. So there it is more updates to follow!!Cheers.

StereoG,

Try this album.

https://open.spotify.com/album/02wrkK9VX7tCIkGbRXdO6v?si=ZdPaMb2cSCSCyWQwxxohTg

Track 1,2 and 8.

Track 1 good skin slapping at the start.

Track 2 nice guitar sounds and string texture

Track 8 bass and strong vocals , vocal softness.

She is danish. There is one part in track 2 at 1:00 she says “see” but it sounds like “she”. It’s not sibilant it’s just her pronouncing it with an accent. Track 2 also listen for tambourines in time with and behind the cymbals of tbe drum kit. Also the first time her voice comes in on track 2 have the volume up up up and listen for any midrange breakup as there is some dynamics there as she accentuates the word “ when living”.

Enjoy! It’s an incredibly produced album. Hope that helps.

FYI I always find my m60s sound remarkably better out in the room and with well powered solid amplification. I don’t know your room but that’s what I have to offer. I bet you’re having fun with both pair of speakers! I’m rooting for the Axioms of course but Paradigm is no slouch! May the best tower win.

Ps. Be sure to do some long sessions as well like a couple hours or more nonstop at moderate spl without cherry picking songs. Kinda like a listening fatigue test. And a low volume test too at night.

We want details!!!!
Have fun!!

Yeah, that's what I said a few weeks ago. The 60 would be challenged in the mids and highs compared to the 800 but would do well in the lows.

I'm curious though about higher volumes. I know the woofers on the 800 will distort but I'm curious about the mid and tweeter.

And what about soundstage and the ability of speakers to disappear?

I'll never buy Anthem.

It was closer than I thought it would be. I don't really know what to make of Paradigm anymore, they talk the talk of using NRC research, but seem to deliver products that are voiced for rooms with hardwood floors (I'm not kidding).

Still, it was a fair fight. I'm not capable of doing these comparison tests anymore now that I have an AVR instead of an A/B switching receiver or integrated amp. I was able to A/B my last significant purchase, and I knew within a minute which was the better speaker.

I wish I could guide you on a receiver. I just don't know.

Good to hear that you are also evaluating them at higher volumes including the soundstage and imaging.