Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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Yes, I did hear some hiss during very quiet passages. I didn't hear it from my rear M22's, but I did hear it on my M80's. It wasn't enough to be really bothersome, but it was there. I too have read a couple of reports from people with more sensitive speakers having hiss problems.
What? This is news to me. Is this the result of the emotivas or is this common with the m80's to have a little hiss because of the high sensitivity? I would like to know before I throw money down on an emotiva product. Otherwise, I'll just get Harmon Kardon 645 or something. Just curious.
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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I've never heard a hiss (while music is playing) on my H/K 525 with the 50s or the 80s. Of course, I don't crank it like others around here (75dB, quoted as "quiet" by someone else is around medium loud for me...)
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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What? This is news to me. Is this the result of the emotivas or is this common with the m80's to have a little hiss because of the high sensitivity? I would like to know before I throw money down on an emotiva product. Otherwise, I'll just get Harmon Kardon 645 or something. Just curious.
All I can say is that when listening to the same source material, Hiss: LMC+LPA > Pioneer+LPA
In my case, it wasn't enough that I had serious concerns about it. Again, the only time I noticed it was during a couple of quiet passages of otherwise loud listening, and I really only noticed it two or three times. To be fair, it could have been the recording, I suppose, but I have never noticed background (non-recording related) hiss on my Pioneer+LPA setup, even listening to those same tracks where I heard hiss on the LMC+LPA.
Someone over on AV123 said that it's conceivable that the LMC-1 might have hiss problems with highly efficient speakers. Their theory was that because the LMC was beta-tested by mostly AV123 forum people, who mostly own less-efficent Rocket speakers, noise levels might not have been an issue. I have ZERO evidence to back that up, and its only some random persons opinion, but it makes sense. Take it with a very small grain of salt.
I'd highly recommend that you try out an LMC-1 for yourself before coming to any conclusions. You'll get your money back if it doesn't work out (except for YOUR shipping costs). I'm proof that Emotiva definitely stands by their 30 day guarantee.
Last edited by PeterChenoweth; 05/11/07 06:23 PM.
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Re: why separates?
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What makes separates better than a all-in-one receiver, like the Yamaha RX-V661? Is it the built-in amplification that is sub-par?
About the only really good reason for separates is being able to keep the amplifier section and upgrade just the pre when new technology in the form of "Dolby Digital EXXXXX 14.5" comes out.
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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Me playing Hendrix with my teeth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYaBBemvA7U
Holy crap, Adam! Nicely done. For some reason, I thought you were a little older. Please keep us posted on your gigs and such.
ObOnTopic: The hissing reports make me very suspicious.
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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The video was pretty darn good.
My M80s are dead quiet with my Rotel equipment. It must be the Emo products.
Rick
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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Thank you. That was a video from my sophomore year here at Whitworth College. I am graduating next week and moving back over the mountains to Woodinville. I can see why you thought I was a bit older. I look really young in that video too. I'm actually 22 now, so my search for a "real job" is on. Also, I have been very fortunate to be able to buy a house out of college. In addition, considering the fact I'm obsessed with the Beatles, have big vinyl collection, and hate rap music(no reason to ever listen to it, unless your at a club or something...but even then, its overstayed its welcome at the center stage of popular music), I could see how one might think that.
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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The hissing reports make me very suspicious.
What are you suspicious of?
Rodney
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Re: Peter, how about hiss from LMC-1?
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Well, I'd rather talk about how much I enjoy Adam's virtuosity and his prospects, but since you asked me a direct question, I'll provide the courtesy of a non-technical reply.
And by specifying "non-technical", I mean only to infer that I'm not capable of providing that version, not that I choose not to. I'm just a consumer on this deal, not an engineer.
I really want to like/buy the Emotiva products. They seem elegant and an excellent value. We have several reports from people I trust that the company provides excellent customer service and is driven by right-minded people.
1. The pricing seems initially "too good to be true".
2. There are numerous, documented, unresolved software/operating issues with the LMC-1.
3. We have Randy's unsatisfactory experience with the amps to reflect upon.
4. There are several reports about the audibility of the LMC-1 noise floor.
Perhaps "suspicious" was a bit too pejorative. My assessment as an interested consumer is that the company is still finding its way technically, and that the products have not yet reached a comfortable level of maturity. It just seems to me that - right now - the company is making design choices that compromise the product quality.
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Re: My Emotiva LMC-1 Review
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Good points, Tom. While I own an LPA-1, I'm coming to those same conclusions as well. Like their look, love their customer service, appreciate their prices, but a little suspicious about the quality. Still, for the record, I love my LPA-1. Anyway.... If anyone's interested in taking a peek at a dedicated Emotiva discussion forum, I've got an 'unofficial' one set up that's already found a handful of users. I'd welome all of my Axiom friends that are curious for more Emotiva info to stop on by.... Unofficial Emotiva Discussion
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