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#122681 - 01/03/06 08:03 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
davemire Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 88
Loc: Peterborough, ON
Thanks for all the posts guys. I am going to take back the m22ti's and see what my budget will have in store. Unfortunately, m80's aren't in the budget due to the fact that I would have to upgrade my amp. Though getting a new amp would help
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#122682 - 01/03/06 08:20 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
I would suggest looking at a more compitant sub to go along with the M22s. Have you looked here . They have the STF 2 that would be around your budget.
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#122683 - 01/03/06 10:53 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
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The STF-2 looks great, I guess those prices are $US?
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#122684 - 01/03/06 11:02 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
No, that is a Canadian dealer
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#122685 - 01/03/06 11:17 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Registered: 01/29/02
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Loc: Toronto/New York/Dwight
Hi davemire,

Whether or not to go with M60s over the M22ti's really depends on your personal taste in volume levels versus how large your room is and how far back you are from the main speakers.

I do much of my listening using a pair of M22ti's and the EP500 subwoofer in an average-size living room (19 x 13 x 9 ft.). I've always emphasized that the M22ti's have the ability to play surprisingly loud so long as you aren't trying to fill a huge space, but last night viewing the DVD of War of the Worlds with the DTS mix, I was dumbfounded. The low frequencies on the DTS mix are astonishing over the EP500, but the dynamic peaks in that soundtrack didn't seem to strain the capabilities of the M22ti's. I have a pair of M80 towers as well that I can switch instantly to, but I was so transfixed by the chaos and dynamics of the soundtrack that I kept reducing the level for fear of disturbing my lead-footed neighbours upstairs .

I may replay the sequences using the M80ti's but in my smallish living room (2200 cu ft.) I had no complaints about the very loud dynamic peaks from the M22's with the EP500, VP100, and QS8s. If your room is of similar size, adding the M60s may not result in a really significant audible improvement. Note that I don't listen at levels as loud as several of my Axiom colleagues.

As to subwoofers, if you're in Canada, Axiom's EP175 or EP350 deliver tight, powerful bass, albeit not in the same class as the EP500, but impressive nonetheless.

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#122686 - 01/03/06 11:45 AM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Registered: 12/16/05
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I have the HSU STF-2 and M22's. Awesome.

One of the main reasons I considered an HSU sub is because they are down firing. This means, someone can kick it and not go "Oops, I just bashed in your very expensive subwoofer, sorry." Then again, it is under my computer desk serving as a vibrating footrest. It serves its purpose well in that area too.

You shouldn't feel any need to upgrade your sub if you have a smaller room. If you get really excited, the EP500 would be the next upgrade. However, the HSU STF-2 is in my opinion the best budget subwoofer. The VTF-2 is actually the exact same subwoofer except it has two tuning modes. That's why it is $100 more. However, a subwoofer always usually wants to go the lowest, which is what the STF-2 is tuned for, so it is the best deal.
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#122687 - 01/03/06 12:57 PM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Loc: Peterborough, ON
I have heard tons about these HSU subs, though I have never heard one. They certainly have a large following.
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#122688 - 01/03/06 01:13 PM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Loc: Iowa
You should hear an EP500 or 600, WoW...
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#122689 - 01/03/06 01:51 PM Re: m22ti and VP100
davemire Offline
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Registered: 08/16/05
Posts: 88
Loc: Peterborough, ON
So there is more than a moderate increase from the EP350 to the 500 or 600?
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#122690 - 01/03/06 02:28 PM Re: m22ti and VP100
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Registered: 01/29/04
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Loc: Iowa
I owned a 350 for a year before my 500 and it was a very good sub. Since I've moved downstairs to an almost 900Sq Ft room, the 500 seems to fill the space more evenly, but the 350 did a good job as well. The 500 has more "feel it in your chest" experience. If our room is not to huge, the 350 would do well also..
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