Get Free, Friendly, Expert Advice
Call 1-888-352-9466 or email

Designed and Manufactured in Canada Since 1980


Wall'O'Fame
Solarrdadd's 7.1 Apartment HT!
A promise is A promise... Axiom's second home
AxiomAudio Blog

Insider’s Sneak Peek: AxiomAeris

Axiom’s New Computer Speakers

Blind Listening Tests

Who's Online
4 registered (Spoiler, Debbie, craigsub, richeydog), 58 Guests and 8 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Financing
Forum Stats
13,380 Registered Members
11 Forums
23,218 Topics
411,203 Posts

Most users ever online: 378 @ 02/24/13 04:33 PM
Top Posters
Ken.C 17932
pmbuko 16357
SirQuack 13357
CV 11473
MarkSJohnson 11200
Meanwhile On Facebook
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#185953 - 11/28/07 05:09 PM Cables Matter!
Zarak Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 03/09/03
Posts: 1852
Loc: PA
No, I'm not trying to start another great debate. Who got the most recent newsletter though. Alan suggested replacing the cables to fix some video issues on a TV. Thought that was interesting, since we often see debates about cables on here, although usually those debates relate to audio and not video cables.

Top
#185957 - 11/28/07 05:23 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Zarak]
pmbuko Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16357
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Video is a much more demanding medium than audio. It stands to reason that using higher-quality cables will make a difference that is within a human's ability to detect.
_________________________

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Top
#185958 - 11/28/07 05:25 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: pmbuko]
MarkSJohnson Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 11200
Loc: Central NH
Especially when capacitance is concerned....
_________________________
::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Top
#185963 - 11/28/07 05:49 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: MarkSJohnson]
mastaplaya Offline
old hand

Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 89
Loc: Cold Lake AB
Not as important with audio??

Top
#185964 - 11/28/07 05:49 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: mastaplaya]
Ken.C Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17932
Loc: NoVA
Hoo boy.
_________________________
I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!

Top
#185968 - 11/28/07 06:00 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Ken.C]
mastaplaya Offline
old hand

Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 89
Loc: Cold Lake AB
Sorry, never mind.

Top
#185972 - 11/28/07 06:07 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: mastaplaya]
Wid Offline
axiomite

Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6754
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Hoo boy.


\:D \:D \:D
_________________________
Rick


"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud


Top
#185975 - 11/28/07 06:17 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Wid]
jakewash Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10400
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
You just don't have to go overboard with the video cables. I usually buy the cheapest ones I can find for the length desired with the best shielding I can find. Video signals are low voltage so the cabling does make more of a difference than for audio, much like interconnects. There is just no reason to spend hundreds of dollars for a cable that does the same thing a $20 one will do, without a big brand name stuck all over it.

For example, with my recent TV and DVD player purchase I bought a $79 12' HDMI cable and a $29 12' HDMI cable, I can see no difference in the PQ or hear a difference in the audio between the 2, so I took the more expensive one back.
_________________________
Jason
-----------------
TTTHHHPPPPPTTTT!

My HT

Top
#186011 - 11/28/07 08:36 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: jakewash]
Mojo Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 01/21/07
Posts: 3430
Has anyone tried rusty fence wire for video?

Top
#186022 - 11/28/07 08:49 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Mojo]
St_PatGuy Offline
axiomite

Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7447
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 Originally Posted By: Mojo
Has anyone tried rusty fence wire for video?


Not since I relocated my TV from the backyard. . .
_________________________
***********
"Nothin' up my sleeve. . ." --Bullwinkle J. Moose

Top
#186029 - 11/28/07 09:21 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Mojo]
jakewash Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10400
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: Mojo
Has anyone tried rusty fence wire for video?


Yes, but it gave a slightly red hue to everything.
_________________________
Jason
-----------------
TTTHHHPPPPPTTTT!

My HT

Top
#186037 - 11/28/07 09:50 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Zarak]
pmbuko Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16357
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I actually just switched out a video cable today with fantastic results. I have a rather old LCD monitor attached to my computer. The signal path before today, from computer to monitor, was:

1. DVI out on video card
2. DVI to D-Sub adapter
3. VGA cable
4. Base of monitor
5. analog to digital converter built-in to base
6. DFP cable (used before DVI became an accepted standard) from base to actual display panel

With the purchase of a single DVI to DFP computer, my signal path is now:

1. DVI out on video card
2. DVI to DFP cable
3. LCD panel

Everything is now noticeably crisper, and the screen seems to be a touch brighter, as well. After recalibrating the monitor, I am now feel I have a new screen for the price of an $18 cable.

I had been meaning to make the change for a really long time, but never felt a need since the old connection worked just fine.
_________________________

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Top
#186045 - 11/28/07 10:08 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: pmbuko]
jakewash Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 12/26/03
Posts: 10400
Loc: Calgary, Alberta
 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
I actually just switched out a video cable today with fantastic results. I have a rather old LCD monitor attached to my computer. The signal path before today, from computer to monitor, was:

1. DVI out on video card
2. DVI to D-Sub adapter
3. VGA cable
4. Base of monitor
5. analog to digital converter built-in to base
6. DFP cable (used before DVI became an accepted standard) from base to actual display panel

With the purchase of a single DVI to DFP computer, my signal path is now:

1. DVI out on video card
2. DVI to DFP cable
3. LCD panel

Everything is now noticeably crisper, and the screen seems to be a touch brighter, as well. After recalibrating the monitor, I am now feel I have a new screen for the price of an $18 cable.

I had been meaning to make the change for a really long time, but never felt a need since the old connection worked just fine.


A perfect example of what happens with too many connections, everything still works but a little loss at each connection affects the outcome.
_________________________
Jason
-----------------
TTTHHHPPPPPTTTT!

My HT

Top
#186047 - 11/28/07 10:09 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: jakewash]
Ken.C Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17932
Loc: NoVA
Well, probably not a great a/d converter in the monitor at least.
_________________________
I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!

Top
#186053 - 11/28/07 10:46 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: Ken.C]
pmbuko Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16357
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Now I don't have to hit the auto-adjust button every few hours to make text crisper. That was definitely the fault of the a/d converter.
_________________________

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

Top
#186194 - 11/29/07 06:27 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: pmbuko]
ctown Offline
devotee

Registered: 01/06/07
Posts: 364
Loc: Calgary, AB
I have been running my HDTV, Panny S77 DVD and Moto 6412 STB for over a year now with the cheap HDMI cable that Panasonic included and a $10 HDMI cable from Monoprice. It all works great.

No Mon$ter or other premium cables required here.

Top
#186287 - 11/30/07 03:49 PM Re: Cables Matter! [Re: ctown]
Worfzara Offline
aficionado

Registered: 07/25/05
Posts: 734
Loc: London area, Ont, Canada
HDMI, Optical and Coax all send digital signals, 0's and 1's folks. As long the connections on eather end are in good shape you can't convince me that a $220 cable will sound / look beter than a $20 cable. As long as the 0's and 1's get to the device in the correct order at the right time, it doesnt matter how.

Paul
_________________________
paul

Axiom M80, VP180, Qs8, EP500
Epson 3020 (Evaluating)
AudioTrak AT-6100
Denon AVR-990

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Moderator:  alan, Amie, Andrew, axiomadmin, Brent, Debbie, Ian, Jc 

Home  |  Corporate Info  |  Products  |  Message Board  |  FAQs  |  Warranty  |  Site Map  |  Privacy Statement   |  Contact Us

©2015 Colquhoun Audio Laboratories Limited
All Rights Reserved.