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#196704 - 02/17/08 04:33 AM Re: Another nail in the HD-DVD coffin... [Re: mapatton]
RickF Offline

Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
Wal-Mart ought to let those of us who purchased the A2's during their 'Secret Friday Sale' trade these in on a Blu-Ray player. That really irks me, they boost the living daylights out of the overall sales of these units by placing the things on an amazing sale and then three months later they drop the players and the disc altogether.
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#196707 - 02/17/08 09:33 AM The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: RickF]
terzaghi Offline

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4858
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Toshiba Pulls the Plug on HD DVD - Ends Format War
>> From

Toshiba Corporation has decided to withdraw from next generation high-definition DVD production.

The company said it will continue to sell HD-DVD products for a while but will stop further development of HD DVD. Meanwhile, it said its DVD factories in Aomori Prefecture, northern Japan, would be closed.

Market observers said that Toshiba could suffer a loss of hundreds of millions of US dollars.

I found another link to the story here:,_NHK:_Toshiba_to_Pull_Plug_on_HD_DVD/1473

Sooooooo... when do we get transformers on bluray?

#196714 - 02/17/08 10:28 AM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: terzaghi]
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Enjoy re-re-buying your content...
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#196715 - 02/17/08 10:30 AM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: Ken.C]
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Good thing my Toshiba A2 didn't work with my Sanyo Z2 Projector, ended up selling it to Lorenzo up in Canada...

I does work great as an upconverting player.
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#196718 - 02/17/08 10:51 AM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: SirQuack]
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I am still only "out" $12 on the player (after getting rid of 4 of the 5 the "rebate" movies) and about another $60 in movies I bought, but 2 of those are combo DVD/HD-DVD movies, and my wife was going to buy them on straight DVD, which I got the combo ones for about $2 more. And of course I bought Transformers. The others in my collection were free (thanks to CV), so for about $72 I have a great upconverting player that also plays HD-DVD AND I have 17 movies! I don't consider myself a loser in this whole experience. What will stink is when I can afford to grab a Blu-Ray player (when they are more standardized as well) and it won't play HD-DVD like we all know Sony will put into their specs for most future players, and then I would have to have 2 players to watch movies. At that point, the HD-DVD will probably be given away with the movies.
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#196723 - 02/17/08 11:31 AM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: nickbuol]
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I knew the risk when I decided to buy into both formats, and I've had enough enjoyment out of my HD DVDs to where I don't feel bad about having supported the format. And I'll still get more enjoyment out of it.

Of course, now I get to save up for a Blu-ray Disc player that will do everything I want.

#196724 - 02/17/08 11:33 AM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: nickbuol]
terzaghi Offline

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4858
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I bought the A2 for $98. I got rid of 2 of my freebie movies for $60... so I paid $38 for the player and 3 free movies. Add the 4 movies I got from CV and I got a helluva deal. I did buy The Eagles live from Melbourne for $20 though. I also bought DVE on HD DVD but it is a combo format so no loss there.

All in all I am not out a lot of money. I will keep my HD DVD player and keep renting from netflix until their supply is gone (which may be very soon). Eventually I will unhook the thing I imagine. Maybe sell it to someone with a huge collection of HD DVD's so they an have a backup player down the road.... who knows?

Eventually, I will buy a bluray player most likely. Probably sooner rather than later.

#196729 - 02/17/08 12:10 PM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: terzaghi]
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 131
Loc: Kansas City, MO USA
I've been keeping up on the format war since I bought both a PS3 and Toshiba HD-XA2 in mid 2007. Even thought I was format neutral from a hardware standpoint, I always opted for the HD DVD version of any dual format release. I'm sad that we'll stop seeing HD DVD releases, though my XA2 is a great SD DVD upconverter so it will still have a place in my stack for some time to come. I felt that HD DVD would lose the battle for awhile now as Sony's marketing was much more effective, driving the words Blu-ray into the minds of the public. In contrast, Toshiba's print ads and TV spots were pretty lame, especially their Super Bowl ad. It will be interesting to see how this plays out for Blu-ray hardware and software pricing and adoption in the short term. I smell higher prices and lower sales figures! I'm also waiting on a HD DVD firesale at places like Regardless, I won't be displeased if Sony doesn't recoup the hundreds of millions they threw around to secure studio exclusivity.
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#196730 - 02/17/08 12:13 PM Re: The format war is over: toshiba pulls the plug [Re: terzaghi]
blackstar79 Offline

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 109
Loc: Ottawa, Ontario
i guess returning my player a while back and getting a pc hddvd/BD drive worked out well for me. as much as I'm disappointed that HD DVD is leaving us, i must look on the bright side! i should be able to get some really really cheap HD DVD titles and perhaps even pick up a really cheap HD DVD player in the next couple of months. that stack of Beta players i have would look awful purdy with an HD DVD player as a topper!
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#196739 - 02/17/08 01:16 PM Re: Another nail in the HD-DVD coffin... [Re: mapatton]
Hansang Offline

Registered: 02/07/07
Posts: 585
Loc: New York
 Originally Posted By: mapatton
I would offer a different opinion. For about 18 months following the BetaMax demise, I saw little to no sales on VHS tapes, and about an 18% price increase where I was at.
Not sure how lack of competition promotes pricing incentives to the consumer.

There is still competition. Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Sharp, and a bunch of others may BD players. The mass adoption of one format will encourage people to buy these players and will reduce the price. That's how EVERY electronic device I've ever owned worked. My first DVD player was $600+ if I recall. First plasma's were $10K+, etc etc. Prices will come down because of mass production/adoption.
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