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#314607 - 07/14/10 12:07 AM Re: VP180 [Re: JohnK]
solarrdadd Offline

Registered: 05/04/10
Posts: 309
Loc: Alexandria, VA
my QS8 surrounds will be here Thursday. then my speaker upgrade is complete. 5 speakers, M80, VP180 & QS8 all in the V3 flavor!
i'll keep you all posted when they arrive. i'll probably post in a QS8 thread i saw.

well, Tuesday night to celebrate and "break it in" (the new center) we watched Percy Jackson and it was truly incredible. the front soundstage is like i've never heard it before and it's only set at 50hz (i'm gonna give 40hz a try tomorrow, though 50hz was quite impressive ) for the front 3 and they are thunderous! these are truely special speakers and if you've got the power they will take it and turn that power into brilliant, spacious sound with true purpose. when the minatour comes after Percy or the Hydra attacks and screams and stomps it was like really being in the movies for us for the first time and we didn't have it turned up loud either, in fact it was at the lower end of where we tend to watch movies. i watch them at (volume) 55 or 60 (mostly closer to 60) but for Percy it was at 55 but it almost sounded like it was at 65! i was really impressed and happy to see that my money was spent on such a good investment. i am sure i can get rid of my boxes in about another week, i have no doubt that these speakers will stand the test of time with their build quality and i am also certain that i want to keep them!
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#314634 - 07/14/10 09:42 AM Re: VP180 [Re: solarrdadd]
bdpf Offline

Registered: 06/28/08
Posts: 769
Loc: Toronto, Canada
You might also want to try leaving the Xover at 50Hz and have your 3 fronts playing full range, you might like it.
"The problem is choice..."

#314635 - 07/14/10 09:55 AM Re: VP180 [Re: JohnK]
Murph Offline

Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6955
Loc: PEI, Canada
I agree with John.

You don't want your sub doing just the lowest frequencies that your mains can't do. A good sub is much more efficient and better designed to handle all the broader LFE range so you want to remove the task from your mains and let them concentrate on what they do best, some low bass likely but mostly all the midrange and highs.

It's the perfect blend you are looking for, not a hard cutoff. 80 Hz is kind of the defacto standard for people who don't want to tweak. That's where bass starts to become non-directional and also, as mentioned, a crossover is not necessarily a hard cutoff (snips off everything below or 80 or whatever N it's set for.) It is where it begins more of a rolling off of the lower frequencies to the sub. Some of the frequencies just below 80 or N will still get sent to your mains in order to keep things blending nicely but it will start to roll off fairly steeply after N.

With great power comes Awesome irresponsibility.

#314673 - 07/14/10 12:39 PM Re: VP180 [Re: Murph]
Dundas Offline
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Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Hamilton
Crossovers in AVRs are a gradual slope, typically 24dB per octave lowpass for the subwoofer and 12dB highpass for the rest of the speakers and the frequency chosen is the -3db point. So an 80Hz crossover will be 15dB down at 40Hz.

#314884 - 07/15/10 11:59 AM Re: VP180 [Re: Dundas]
HomeDad Offline

Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
Come on guys 83 pages and not one full review of this new speaker, I'm slowly getting sucked in, but I'll have to build a rack and will probably wait until they hit the outlet. That's what I get for popping back onto the boards. crazy
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

#314885 - 07/15/10 12:07 PM Re: VP180 [Re: HomeDad]

Any review will more than likely be posted in the VP180 First Impressions thread first.

#314890 - 07/15/10 12:19 PM Re: VP180 [Re: ]
dakkon Offline

Registered: 02/08/04
Posts: 1851
that is because your looking in the wrong thread homedad

try this one....

#314891 - 07/15/10 12:29 PM Re: VP180 [Re: dakkon]
HomeDad Offline

Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 3301
Loc: Central,California
Thank You!
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

#315245 - 07/17/10 09:23 PM Re: VP180 [Re: HomeDad]
HTGEEK Offline
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Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 96
I started a thread on some basic settings for the VP-180 matched with the M80's. What does everybody have their Db levels set?

When I ran Audyssey, it had my fronts set at -4.5 but I ended up changing them to 0.5 before I was okay with the sound. Actually I increased all the settings by at least 10db. The crossovers are set at 40 for the front three.

In comparison when I had a VP-150/M60 setup, My fronts were set at 60hz and the db levels were +3.5. Is that normal for it to be lower??

I feel like I am asking a ton of questions, but I just want to make sure I am setting everything up the best I can.


#315248 - 07/17/10 09:40 PM Re: VP180 [Re: HTGEEK]
Dundas Offline
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Registered: 03/02/08
Posts: 74
Loc: Hamilton
You should leave the speaker levels where the receiver set them if you want the calibration of your volume control to be correct and also if you are using Dynamic EQ.
Your new speakers are more efficient so it would make sense that the set up program would set them lower.

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