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#317540 - 08/04/10 01:56 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: jakewash]
tomtuttle axiomite Registered: 06/20/03 Posts: 8488 Loc: Tacoma	My experience has been that ALL speaker manufacturers charge quite a premium for drivers. It is one of the only ways they have of protecting intellectual property rights. It's pretty easy to reverse-engineer the crossover and enclosure; not so easy to reverse-engineer the drivers. The only way to avoid knockoffs (aka somebody stealing and profiting from the significant investment already made in research and development) is to control at least one critical part of the equation. For loudspeaker companies, that piece ends up being the drivers. Personally, I have no problem with Axiom's policies or pricing in this area, and have absolute faith that they would deal with me fairly if I ever needed service. _________________________ bibere usque ad hilaritatem
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#317542 - 08/04/10 02:09 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: tomtuttle]
BlueJays1 connoisseur Registered: 09/19/08 Posts: 4116 Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire	Originally Posted By: tomtuttle My experience has been that ALL speaker manufacturers charge quite a premium for drivers. It is one of the only ways they have of protecting intellectual property rights. It's pretty easy to reverse-engineer the crossover and enclosure; not so easy to reverse-engineer the drivers. The only way to avoid knockoffs (aka somebody stealing and profiting from the significant investment already made in research and development) is to control at least one critical part of the equation. For loudspeaker companies, that piece ends up being the drivers. Personally, I have no problem with Axiom's policies or pricing in this area, and have absolute faith that they would deal with me fairly if I ever needed service. A compromise to this and to be able to still deliver reasonable priced modifications (product support) to past versions is to only sell these upgrading parts ( crossovers, drivers, tweeters etc) to existing customers only that can be verified within their system. All customer and product information is in the company system - what you ordered, how much, name, address etc. Even at a more reasonable rate you can have policy to ship the old parts back to the company when the new ones arrive. If the prices were lower, that type of policy seems very reasonable to me. This is one way you can still offer excellent product support at good prices, without alienating your existing customers as well as protecting intellectual property at the same time. _________________________ I’m armed and I’m drinking. You don’t want to listen to advice from me, amigo. -Max Payne
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#317545 - 08/04/10 04:02 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: Ken.C]
Captain4105 veteran Registered: 01/11/09 Posts: 133 Loc: Southern California	I asked Axiom a couple of weeks ago and JC indicated the FO's are indeed V3's.
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#317587 - 08/04/10 10:09 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: Captain4105]
SirQuack shareholder in the making Registered: 01/29/04 Posts: 13567 Loc: Iowa	Scamp, as Ken said I would call Axiom to be sure. However, if I would take a guess, factory outlet speakers would most likely also be V3. Keep in mind, Axiom has been shipping new speakers as V3 for many many months and factory outlet are new speakers. _________________________ M80s-VP180-4xM22ow-4xM3ic-EP600-2xEP350 Anthem AVM60 Outlaw 7700 Emotiva A500 Epson 5040UB
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#317597 - 08/04/10 10:52 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: SirQuack]
PTPlayers veteran Registered: 03/03/09 Posts: 129	Originally Posted By: sirquack Scamp, as Ken said I would call Axiom to be sure. However, if I would take a guess, factory outlet speakers would most likely also be V3. Keep in mind, Axiom has been shipping new speakers as V3 for many many months and factory outlet are new speakers. My FO M80 are V3's and the only thing i found wrong which was mentioned in the sheet that came with each speaker was that the magnets were reversed at the top which isn't a big deal. _________________________ XPA-3 VP-180v3 M80v3 Svs PC-12 Plus SVS SSS-2 PS-3 Sharp 60" LED OPPO BDP-93 Anthem MRX500
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#317614 - 08/05/10 04:01 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: PTPlayers]
MP3DFX regular Registered: 08/05/10 Posts: 7 Loc: Milton, Ontario	I ordered FO speakers June 24th and they arrived July 23rd. They were indeed V3 and came in boxes marked v2 with a silver sticker on the outside that read V3 with the serial number. One M60 had scratches on the bottom and the other was magnets, the EP500 was magnets and both QS8's were magnets. All in excellent shape and worth the wait and $$ saved _________________________ M60 v3, VP180, EP500 v3, QS8 v3 Sony PS3 Epson PowerLite Home Cinema 8100 Yamaha RX-V765 2 Cats 1 Wife
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#317622 - 08/05/10 08:04 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: MP3DFX]
terzaghi connoisseur Registered: 04/04/07 Posts: 4870 Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma	What magnets are we talking about, for the grill cover? Does it still stick? _________________________ -David
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#317623 - 08/05/10 08:05 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: terzaghi]
PTPlayers veteran Registered: 03/03/09 Posts: 129	For the grilles _________________________ XPA-3 VP-180v3 M80v3 Svs PC-12 Plus SVS SSS-2 PS-3 Sharp 60" LED OPPO BDP-93 Anthem MRX500
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#318124 - 08/10/10 11:51 AM Re: Version 3 [Re: PTPlayers]
terzaghi connoisseur Registered: 04/04/07 Posts: 4870 Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma	does the grill still stick to the speaker with the missing magnets? Seems like missing magnets would cause the grill to be loose (if it sticks at all) and could cause ratttling noises. I thought the whole idea of the factory outlet was that the speakers would sound and function the same as a perfect one. I guess I'm questioning whether missing magnets are a cosmetic defect... _________________________ -David
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#318132 - 08/10/10 12:59 PM Re: Version 3 [Re: terzaghi]
PTPlayers veteran Registered: 03/03/09 Posts: 129	I leave my grilles on and even though the top two magnets are reversed , i do not hear and rattling. _________________________ XPA-3 VP-180v3 M80v3 Svs PC-12 Plus SVS SSS-2 PS-3 Sharp 60" LED OPPO BDP-93 Anthem MRX500
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