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#335366 - 01/22/11 06:45 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: donlboy]
GTZ Offline
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Dr. House,
I was uncomfortable, for copywrite reasons, to include the whole article in my OP.

The review is in the Feb/March 2011 issue, page 64. I can't do a URL on a current issue.

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#335370 - 01/22/11 09:44 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: jakewash]
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I think Axiom's aged box design is the cause of many poor comments, might be time for a new outer shell.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is the main reason for the current design of the cabinets: "Anti-Standing-Wave cabinets that suppress internal resonances which color sound". It may not be so easy to reconfigure.
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#335371 - 01/22/11 09:50 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: LT61]
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Right you are Larry, that is the point of the design. Now I suppose they could keep the interior the same, but change the exterior a bit, maybe round it off a bit to make it more sexier.
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#335373 - 01/22/11 10:27 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: SirQuack]
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My thnking exactly Randy, keep the interior design but have the exterior a little smoother.

I know the costs to manufacture such a cabinet would be more and would we, the consumer, be willing to pay a little more for a 'sexier' cabinet.


#335375 - 01/22/11 10:40 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: jakewash]
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Yes, and also keep in mind that in addition to the effect on internal standing waves, a perhaps even more significant benefit of non-parallel enclosure walls is to reduce the external diffraction which occurs at square corners and parallel sides. Yes, a more rounded "teardrop" form which some manufacturers have adopted would furnish similar benefits, but presumably at a higher manufacturing cost.

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#335381 - 01/23/11 12:46 AM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: JohnK]
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Bondo to the rescue ?

#335397 - 01/23/11 10:26 AM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: donlboy]
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I think axioms approach is to make a speaker that sounds great, looks good, and sell it at a low cost... and I think they do that very well. I don't think an exotically shaped cabinet fits into this business model very well. I'd much rather them devote their resources to continuing and make sound improvements to existing speakers, develop new products, etc. than to try and figure out how to make their speakers look like some other brand. For those that want to pay more money they offer some very nice finish options.

JohnK, good point about the Teardrop shape. I imagine that 99% of customers would not notice any audible difference though. I'm sure they would all notice the price increase on the other hand.

#335402 - 01/23/11 11:18 AM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: terzaghi]
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There's no question any sort of curved/elliptic shape would completely change the manufacturing process which is fairly straight forward and relatively inexpensive with a couple of angles on the sides, but make it elliptical you either layer it with many thin sheets of mdf or layer it the other way using several thick layers cut from solid mdf. Only other method I can think of is if they can form the mdf into a mold and compress it in it's "mushy" state....all of these options increase the cost of manufacture considerably. It probably would have little or no effect on sound, only on appearance. I do, for the record, like curved cabinets though.
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#335410 - 01/23/11 12:12 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: Adrian]
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I like curves too, buddy smile .
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#335414 - 01/23/11 12:38 PM Re: Sound & Vision mag reviews M60's [Re: Ya_basta]
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Being totally oblivious to the fact that they have curves, I did not see it coming until the boxes were opened. Having had traditional Polk's fro 13 years, it is great to have something a little different. I keep them slightly inward for additional emphasis.
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