>>Typically during a stall you should never see a windshield full of ground...
The operative word is "should". If you panic and push the yoke forward you see a lot of ground, which only makes things worse. It got to the point where I was having nightmares about stalling the plane.
There are some limited licenses you can get without having to demonstrate stall and spin recovery, but I still wouldn't want to be flying friends and family around if there was a chance of getting into a situation which I couldn't recover from but any competent pilot probably could.
Someone told me that the US stopped requiring stall & spin testing for a private pilot license because the testing was too dangerous.
I think I'm taking the thread off topic, sorry folks
