And, I think if you ask for a beer in a tree, you should get it! Ha! Thanks all for supporting my quest for oomph. I finally got another email from emotiva and they say the buzz is normal for amps like this. So, I will be sending it back. I feel like I've read 4 books-worth of information online this past week and am still in pursuit of oomph, and a beer in the sun in 80 degrees on a pontoon boat. My newest thought today is that perhaps a very nice 2 channel amp would be good to start with and I believe I will have to ask about whether or not it is silent from now on. Do Bryston's (like 4bsst) play nicely with m80s? Interesting that they are both Canadian, but are they rivals? I have heard that the Bryston's are quiet and now I may be looking to that as a main feature (plus powerful). I use a Jolida tube phono preamp, so a nice ss amp might be good. Lots of choices - but scared to mess up again. Still - opinions are very helpful! Thanks! More beer and oomph for all!