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which avr is good for axiom?
#129803 02/28/06 02:32 PM
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I heard alot thing about how axiom been bright etc. so I was wondering which these AVR is best suit for axiom m60? denon-3806 or Pioneer Elite VSX-74TXVi ???

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#129804 02/28/06 02:44 PM
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This topic comes up a lot. Axioms are not bright. For some reason people on AVS and other biased forums like to give Axiom a bad name. Everyone hears differently. Some speakers are designed to give a more laid back sound, that is not for me. I want a speaker that will produce the recording faithfully, not try to disguise or muffle what your hearing. Axioms speakers are very neutral/efficient/detailed are saying they are bright could not be the furthest from the truth.

If you Search this forum for "Bright" you will find many threads about this topic, when newbies have asked the same question.

I've owned a lot of speakers in my day; Optimus, Infinity, Klipsch, NHT, just to name a few. When I bought my Axioms a year ago I spent months auditioning brands like B&W, NHT, Paradigm and others. In my opinion, the Axioms for the money, were the best deal in the industry.

I would recommend you check the Audition Thread http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Auditions&Number=76567&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart= to see if there is anyone on the list or on the map in your area that will let you listen to their Axioms.

I learned a long time ago, to not listen to others, especially those on AVS that have never heard Axioms, and let my own ears do the judging.

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#129805 02/28/06 03:51 PM
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If you decide to eventually upgrade to M80's, i would go withe the Denon as it will have no problems driving them.


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#129806 02/28/06 04:20 PM
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i orderd the m60, but currently not sure which avr to buy, can anyone has denon or pioneer reciver step in tell me hows the sound quility

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#129807 02/28/06 04:26 PM
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I can tell you the sound quality of the Denon is great,I have the Denon 3805, alot of members on this board use Denon and are very happy. Sorry I can't help you in regards to the pioneer. I'm sure someone will jump in soon.


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#129808 02/28/06 04:31 PM
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I used to run a Denon with my m22s. I wasn't overly impressed. I have recently heard the same receiver with an all PSB speaker setup, with 5ts in the front. I'm going to say this and then I'm going to duck for cover. If you have a small room, the Denon will be fine. If you have a larger room I would look elsewhere. The Pioneer might just be that alternative.

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#129809 02/28/06 04:53 PM
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Lol, no need to duck I used the Denon in a very large room when I had my 60's in a 7.1 setup and had no problems at all.


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#129810 02/28/06 05:09 PM
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Always cracks me up how people think they're gonna get flamed when they say something less than flattering about axioms on this board.

The responses are almost always the same. Calm, matter of fact responses from mature rational people. You go to the competition sites where people who have never heard the speaker talk down about axioms and its the kind of place you will get flamed.

What that means, I'll leave up to others to decide. I'm sure glad I picked Axioms though. Great speakers, great company with a great community forums.

Far as I'm concerned I hit the jack pot regarding speakers and AV conversation.

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#129811 02/28/06 05:45 PM
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You obviously have not been on AVSforum. Try posting something positive about Axioms and the trolls will come out and flame the hell out of you. Jack, Craig, myself, and many others are always over there defending Axiom, it would be nice if some of you would join us.

To the poster, I have the Denon 2805 and love the sound with my M60's. I was told on AVS that Denon's are mechanical sounding and Axioms are bright/harsh, NOT the case.

Many of us also have Pioneer AVR's, they are great as well, as are Onkyo, Yammy, etc...

Pick the AVR that has the features and bells/whistles you like, they will all sound great with your Axioms.


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#129812 02/28/06 06:37 PM
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Agree with Randy. If you pick a mid to upper level receiver from the list of usual suspects (Denon, Pio, Yammy, Onkyo, HK, etc) you will be fine.

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