Thanks guys for the input

I just visited the costco.ca site and they have the 3805 for $1100 delivered. Here is the link

http://www.costco.ca/en-CA/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10284369&whse=&topnav=&cat=3840&hierPath=79*3840*

Costco also has a great return policy.

In regards to the subwoofer, the 500 sounds like it is worth the extra money.