Tom:

Sorry, forgot to answer your question...the deal I got isn't like "internet good", but still decent. I got it on sale and with an additional "frequent customer" discount at Best Buy for about $410 (not opened or anything...new in box). Again, not as tight as some of the other things I've bought off the internet but I like the convenience of being able to return it easily...and in fact I haven't opened it up yet as I'm still keeping my eyes open for receivers. Been to a couple of "high end" shops here in Columbus but I don't know that I'm willing to spend high end dollars on a receiver...not sure I need it given my somewhat casual needs...I think the Yamaha is a pretty solid unit for my needs, though, and with the Axioms should be a real nice combination. Were you looking at the 5660? Any recommendations re: other receivers in that price range?

Take care.

Larry