Got to agree with you on that one sonicfox,

i have done alot of testing with different brands and came to conclusion of that they are all so very close except for some very minor differneces in sound (which perferences of a personal nature) in most cases i have found that the biggest audio differneces always remained in the setup (taken the the amps are in the same cat) these days i belive the the choice of amp must be based more on features than the audio qualities (cause they are so minor) and in that respect, my belif is that the denon's are very flexible with setups and are complete as to features...

just my .03 canadian cents

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