Regarding the "horrible to setup" comments. I love my Denon but I have to agree.

However, I'm one of those geeks who is actually slightly disappointed if my electronics is too easy to set up. I know it's completely wrong but I can't shake that subconscious feeling that if it's too simple to configure than it can't be as high end as I need. Remnants of my first gen. programming days.

Denon may even actually design their product around misdirected souls like mine.
Maybe hypnosis would help.

With great power comes Awesome irresponsibility.