I've got to chime in and say that since I'm not using a sub with my 60's, I've got the low effects switch on my processor to make sure that the bass is channeled through the speakers, opposed to going to a non-existant sub. I am blown away by the bass from these things in this mode when I'm watching a DVD. Most impressive so far has been the new James Bond "Die Another Day" DVD. The incredible sound (and bass) I was getting actually made that movie tollerable! If I added a sub in my apartment, I'd be evicted quicker than you can say "my ears are bleeding."
