John it does seem strange, but to my knowledge I did nothing different after updating the player.

Ken, on the 3808s menu it just says Denon link as an assign option, I remember my old Denon 3805 used to specify it as Denon link 2 in the menu. I'll probably give it one more shot before I head home tomorrow.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.