I appreciate John's offer and might take him up on it.

Pat also has the EP350 as well as the QS8. I'm especially interested in hearing the EP350 because I'm sure that the 500 will definitely get me put out of the house. I would like to see that the 350 does the job.

John only mentioned the M80's and is at least twice as far. It would certainly kill most of a day for me.