Hello all..I am a newbie and have my order of M22's, VP150, QS8's and Hsu sub. When talking to Brent last week about my order I asked him about the subs. He told me that they are coming out with a new line of them and from the tone in his voice he is very excited about this. Sounds like to me that in the future Axiom won't be losing out on the subs to Hsu and Svs. I just couldn't wait till the end of year for mine. So if you have a month or so to wait then you may want to check back when their new line of subs are out.