Hansang, I checked out the Denon 3808 and I hear what you are saying. The RRP for a 3808 here is $3299.00. I hear it's a lot less over there. I read a few forum posts on them and they seem to be very good, just overpriced in Australia. I'm still looking, because a couple of posters said they got them cheaper than that. I just need to know where to draw the line with all this stuff - costwise, that is.

Although, I am so impressed with the Axioms, I'm now thinking of going for the Epic 80/500s