I have a set of both 22's being discussed here. Quite frankly, I wouldn't have either without a sub, so to me, the "you need a sub" point is mute. I prefer the O/W 22's over the regular M22v2's by a large margin. The mid / highs to me are much more pleasing. Now the latest M22's, it would be safe to assume, sound just as pleasing to me as the O/W's due to having the same components.