Oh well the oppo 83 is 2 much money for me...and none sell here in alberta locally so I might /will pick up the panasonic bd65 in the next days. I think its still on sale for $199...hopefully I could get my Ep350 to work by then ..still playing with my onkyo3007 setting ..no sub sound so far but have power and plug all the in...hmmm

It's no use carrying an umbrella, if your shoes are leaking.