whats the lowdown ?
I see the difference in the graphs, but can you really hear these differences ?
In both music ( Stereo ) and movies ( 7ch ) subless too in both situations.
I KNOW THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, without a sub and the sound is better. But, taking out the sub, how much is missing that is noticable ?

I am looking at either or for now ,not sure I can fit a sub in my room I am in and these bookshelfs have no bottom end at all. So, I may box them up until the room is ready for them. So, I am trying to figure out if, I want HGC M60's which I could afford soon, or M80's in black, which I may end up with in the theatre room, if I find them better than bookshelf's and a sub. Thing is, I am adding a stereo upstairs, and the and it is here I really need to know the difference as it is just going to be 2.1ch But whatever I end up with upstairs is definatly in HGC


Pioneer sc-1525
M80 HG Cherry