Thanks Mark. I've been using the Performance Audio app for the iPhone and everything's sitting at 75db pretty nicely right now which is not too far from where the Audyssey put it. I've been A - B'ing the direct and Audyssey modes. Just really need to work on the cross over points and do some sub and manual eq tweaking but I do feel like the ball is still moving a little. It's probably because the Outlaw amp & sub need to settle in just as much as the speakers, they only have a few hours on them too.