Hi Ken, I'm going to sneak in here real quickly. I've never owned the 809 but had researched it in the past. Heat was an issue with some of it's owners, but mostly referred to as running warm or very warm. There was very little talk about catastrophic failure because of it running warm. This was really the only complaint about the 809. This series was thought of very highly on other forums as a receiver being very reliable with good feature sets for the money.

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