Honda and Toyota build great vehicles, no doubt. GM and Ford are now within 5 % of them for breakdown expense, though they are still about 20% short in the overall "feel" of the cars... It is frustrating as a dealer when we keep telling the factory that if they spent $500 more "up front" they would match the best Japan has to offer, and in the long run they would save money in rebates ... Right now, in the FreeStar van, rebates are running $6000... and I think Explorer has $4000...

Maybe we should open a "car nut" thread somewhere...

And thanks for the warm welcome, it is much appreciated...